Who Is Ann Coulter's 2012 Candidate?
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This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," June 23, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: While the president grapples with less than good news on the poll front, the GOP candidates are adding fuel to the fire and blasting the president for his troop drawdown and his plan in Afghanistan. Now each candidate taking the president to task on everything from national security to the cost to the conflict to putting our troops in danger.
But meanwhile, our next guest thinks only one person has the goods to take on "The Anointed One" and insure that he is a one term president. Only problem? This 2012 favorite swears he has no plans of running in 2012.
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I sat down with the author of The New York Times, bestseller "Demonic: How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America," the one and only, Ann Coulter, as she continues to sing the praises of a certain Garden State governor.
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HANNITY: Congratulations on another big best seller.
ANN COULTER, AUTHOR, "DEMONIC": Thank you. And thanks to you Sean Hannity.
HANNITY: Your fans bought this. You worked hard. You worked for two years on this book.
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COULTER: A lot of that was just figuring out what aspect of liberalism to highlight.
HANNITY: So, we have Breitbart on the other night. And did you see him, Breitbart at the Netcooks convention when he --
COULTER: Speaking of the mobs.
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HANNITY: That's what he said, he goes, I'm promoting my book but I really have to promote Coulter's because, you know, what? It was like a mob. Have you ever done cocaine? Did you ever sleep with a male prostitute? And then kicked him out.
COULTER: This is what it's like being around liberals. Thus the idea for the book.
HANNITY: Yes.
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COULTER: Because I'm around them a lot.
HANNITY: You're insane. I don't know who is more insane, you or Breitbart. He goes to the "Netcooks," you go to these liberal universities all the time to get heckled, and they throw pies, they miss but they throw pies at you and.
COULTER: Well I have a bodyguard and I'm hoping I will be able to use him one of these days.
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HANNITY: That is coming.
All right. Look, after our last -- this is going back about two to three months ago. We had a discussion about who you wanted to run for president. You are obsessed with Chris Christie. No matter what happens, Chris Christie -- I've interviewed him twice since you're obsessive remarks. I asked him and on certain terms, he says he's not running.
COULTER: Yes.
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HANNITY: Now, I don't doubt people are going to try and pressure him to run. So, is there an outside five, ten percent chance?
COULTER: I still think there is. I think he's been clever to say he's not running if he runs. If he's really not running, like I say, he's my sworn enemy for life if he doesn't run. But if he had opened the door at all -- people who had been talking about him running since November of last year -- his last year of his governorship would have been over.
HANNITY: Yes.
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COULTER: By saying there is absolutely no way I'm running -- what do I have to do, commit suicide? He's been able to be governor of New Jersey. He has to get through the November elections, he needs to get some, has all these important legislative elections. But if he doesn't announce once those elections are over, the beginning of November, sworn enemy for life.
HANNITY: What does sworn enemy for life means in Coulter's world?
COULTER: I think you've got an inkling of it, you felt the lash of the Coulter temper.
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HANNITY: I never felt -- when did I feel -- no, you wrote a review of my first book. "If there is anything wrong with Hannity's book, he's too nice to liberals." I mean, what was that?
COULTER: That's true.
HANNITY: I was not nice to them.
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COULTER: No, I was annoyed with you once and I don't even remember what it is about. And my mother heard me, haranguing you on the telephone and she said Annie, you call him back and apologize.
HANNITY: Yes. Hell froze over first before that apology came.
In honor of your devotions --
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COULTER: Yes.
HANNITY: -- and I think you must have an alter of Chris Christie in your house.
COULTER: It's a big alter.
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HANNITY: OK. I've got -- this is Chris Christie going after the governor on the issue that he sends his kids to private school and it's a classic Christie response.
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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: You don't send your children to public schools. You send them to private schools. So, I was wondering why you think it is fair to be cutting school funding to public schools?
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GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE, R-N.J.: Gail, you know, what? First off, it's none of your business. I don't ask where you send your kids to school, don't bother me about where I send mine.
Secondly, I pay $38,000 here in property taxes, for a public school system predominantly in Mendham that my wife and I don't choose to utilize because we believe, we decided as parents, that we believe a religious education should be part of our children's everyday education. So, we send our children to parochial school.
Third, I as governor, am responsible for every child in the state not just my own. And the decisions that I make are to try to improve the education opportunities of every child in this state. So, with all due respect Gail, it is none of your business.
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HANNITY: "With all due respect, none of your business."
Finally, you know, what? That's what people like. People like Trump, people that fight back.
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COULTER: He's magnificent. And also, you know, I talk about this in "Demonic," liberals who say this by contrast have no right to say that because they are educational chicken hawks. They want to force poor kids into these public schools. They don't want school choice, they don't want to allow poor parents to send them -- have the option of sending their kids to private school. But look, Obama, Clinton, the Gores, they all send their kids to lilly white private schools.
HANNITY: Interesting.
COULTER: They have no right to be totally defending the teachers unions on this and then sending their own kids to private schools. Any Republican has a right to say, none of your business.
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HANNITY: All right. Let's for the sake argument take Christie at his word, and that he's not going to run for president. And now we have this slate of candidates. Who else do you like?
COULTER: Well, I like them all. I noticed that the Monday night debate last week.
HANNITY: Right.
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COULTER: First of all, I would take any of them over Obama, I'd take any of them over John McCain. So, that's good. But I think it will probably be Romney. And we'll all pretend that we don't know it is going to be Romney to make the race look interesting. And, you know, Romney might beat Obama, Christie would definitely beat Obama.
HANNITY: Oh, good grief. Maybe he will pick Christie as his VP or Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio would be a great.
COULTER: No, I think Christie might want to consider Romney as his VP.
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HANNITY: He's not running! How many times do I have to tell you, he's not running!
COULTER: Wait until I get through with him.
HANNITY: No, he might, he might.
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All right. But if you had, like for example, do you think Michele Bachmann has a --
COULTER: I think she's fantastic, I don't think you can run from the House.
HANNITY: Historically, you are right, but why couldn't she break that barrier?
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COULTER: Possibly, I mean.
HANNITY: You like Herman Cain a lot.
COULTER: I do, although I don't think you can run if you've never held elective office. We're paying much down to the governors and senators that only leaves a few.
HANNITY: Do you like Pawlenty?
COULTER: He's OK.
HANNITY: He doesn't do a whole lot.
COULTER: He's no Chris Christie.
HANNITY: OK. Everyone is compared to Chris Christie.
Newt Gingrich have a chance or you dismissed him?
COULTER: No.
HANNITY: No. Would you want him?
COULTER: Just now, he's losing his entire staff this week.
HANNITY: All right. So, Rick Santorum?
COULTER: No.
HANNITY: You agree with him on most issues.
COULTER: I hate these discussion because I don't like to attack fellow Republicans but...
HANNITY: No. We are not attacking them.
COULTER: When we're talking about running for president, you need someone who is stellar and a cut above.
HANNITY: Do you want Governor Palin to get in?
COULTER: I don't think she is going to. I think she should run for Senate or something.
HANNITY: Really, from Alaska.
COULTER: She just bought a place in Arizona.
HANNITY: She could run in Arizona.
COULTER: Yes.
HANNITY: That's right.
COULTER: We could use her in the Senate but I think she is a great voice for conservatism. Why bother running for president?
HANNITY: You know, it's interesting because if you listen to Axelrod, he said this is not going to be a referendum election on Obama, you know, what have you been smoking?
COULTER: Yes. That's why Republicans are in a much better position considering the fact that any Republican re-run will be better than John McCain. And when they were running Obama, he was just, you know, this attractive 14-year-old without a record to be nailed on. Now he's got a record. So, I think Republicans.
HANNITY: No, he had a record that was ignored. He had a background that was ignored.
COULTER: Fair point. But he had not, you know, thrown his medals over the White House gate.
HANNITY: Fair enough.
But I think though, if you look at the record of Obama, it's so abysmal, it's so bad. And I don't know if you've noticed the psychology that seems to be emerging in him. "You know, my kids don't need their father as president. My wife doesn't -- she is not invested in her husband being president. There are days I think -- one term might be enough." Seems to me, psychologically, he realizes that he's failed.
COULTER: Huh. I don't know. It just sounds like sort of a normal person to me. And that's the only thing -- you are not going to like me to saying this on your show. There are some normal things about Obama. He is attractive, has a nice family, he does speak well. He's wrecked the economy.
HANNITY: Wait a minute. I agree with all that.
COULTER: He's a total left wing -- implementing everything that is the reverse of what Ronald Reagan did and thus we are getting results that are the reverse of the Reagan results. So, Republicans are going to be running on the economy. And I think any Republicans has a pretty good chance, one in particular, the governor of New Jersey.
HANNITY: You are obsessed. Have you ever met your hero?
COULTER: Yes, I met him briefly, once.
HANNITY: Did he know who you were?
COULTER: Yes, of course.
HANNITY: How could anyone not know Ann Coulter?
All right. Now, you are headed to Michigan, I guess?
COULTER: Yes, I am. I'm giving speeches in Michigan. You can to find out where I'll be speaking, I'm signing books on my web page AnnCoulter.com
HANNITY: You're going on a liberal strongholds, you're heading to that university scene or.
COULTER: No, I want to sell books. I don't want to have fun.
HANNITY: All right. Ann Coulter, it's always a pleasure.
COULTER: Thank you, Sean.
HANNITY: Congrats on the book.
COULTER: Thank you.
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