Should felons be able to vote?

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," April 23, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, HOST: Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld with Emily Compagno, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and Tinker Bell dresses up as her for Halloween, Dana Perino. “The Five.”

So let's say you're running for president and you're already up for felons voting. Well, then, champ, which ones? The cute ones, vegans, registered Democrats? The answer, sky's the limit.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does this mean that you would support in franchising people like the Boston marathon bomber, a convicted terrorist and murderer?

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, I-VT: If somebody commits a serious crime, sexual assault, murder, they're going to be punished. But I think the right to vote is inherent to our democracy. Yes, even for terrible people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People who are convicted in prison, like the Boston marathon bomber, on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they should be able to vote?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think we should have that conversation.

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GUTFELD: Oh, great answer. So just days after terrorists murdered over 300 men, women, and children, the Democrats tackle stuff that truly matters. Can our terrorists here still vote? Talk about damning your own party. Of course, there are people who have lost their voting rights forever. Crystal Campbell, Martin Richard, Lou Lindsay, and Sean Collier, can't vote. The Boston bomber suppressed theirs permanently. These candidates also miss the point of incarceration.

Now, if you're just joining us from CNN, this may shock you. But when you're in prison, you lose rights. It's called prison, not spring break. So, no, it's not a slippery slope when denying voting rights because the slope doesn't actually exist. You're in jail. There is no freedom. You can't even vote with your feet.

But in a socialist mind, sense doesn't apply. Socialists disguise their thirst for power as the greater good which means pretending to care while taking control. So it's not about helping those in jail, just expanding the jail to include you and me. Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, the USSR. What made them all so unique, every citizen was a prisoner and every socialist politician the jailer, which is why this socialism thing really only works for Bernie. The rest of us serve the sentence.

All right, Juan, here's my theory. I almost said therapy.

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GUTFELD: This is my therapy. This is my therapy is asking you this question.

JUAN WILLIAMS, HOST: But, you know, that's the thing. You should come to me as your therapist. Can you imagine what those sessions would be like?

GUTFELD: All right, let's pretend. OK. So, Dr. Williams, I have this problem. I keep thinking that Bernie wants felons to vote because he knows they'll vote Democrat.

WILLIAMS: Is that right?

GUTFELD: Yes, that's my --

WILLIAMS: That's what Republicans think.

GUTFELD: Yes, exactly.

WILLIAMS: Although, I think --

JESSE WATTERS, HOST: The truth, Juan.

WILLIAMS: No, yeah --

WATTERS: The studies show --

WILLIAMS: The study shows what?

WATTERS: That Republicans are not going to benefit from felons voting.

WILLIAMS: Oh, is that right?

WATTERS: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: Oh, I didn't know that. But it seems to me that Republicans in Florida, recently, in fact, voted to allow felons, once they leave prison - -

GUTFELD: But once they leave. That's different.

WILLIAMS: No, no, no.

GUTFELD: This is in prison.

WILLIAMS: No. But remember, what you heard from Kamala Harris was I -- she's OK with once they leave prison.

GUTFELD: Right.

WILLIAMS: I think we got to make that distinction.

GUTFELD: I agree.

WILLIAMS: But Bernie is saying in prison.

GUTFELD: Yes. So this really was, Juan, this was like the kill shot that they gave Dukakis. Remember Bernard Shaw?

WILLIAMS: Yes, rape your wife.

GUTFELD: Rape your wife question.

WILLIAMS: But that was -- was that the murder? That was a death sentence.

GUTFELD: Yeah, if somebody --

DANA PERINO, HOST: You guys should explain that.

GUTFELD: Yeah. If somebody rapes and murders your wife, would you still be against the death penalty and Dukakis said yes.

WILLIAMS: He said yes. And here's the reason why because it seems like so inauthentic. I mean, anybody who would do damage to you, my friends, my family, obviously, emotion. I want to go choke that son of a gun, right?

GUTFELD: Yes.

WILLIAMS: And so, it looked like Dukakis was just playing -- but I think Bernie is being sincere here and I tell you why. I think that if you look at people who have been in prison, there is a nationwide sentiment. I think this crosses political parties that say those people have to be reentered into society.

GUTFELD: I'm one of those people.

WILLIAMS: Well, OK. So if you're talking about housing, if you're talking about jobs, if you're talking about welfare you say, hey, that guy committed a felony. He can't reenter society? Then what you're talking about is going to be a high level of people once again going back to crime.

GUTFELD: You're a terrible therapist. It's like I came to you with the problem and you solved -- you're going, let's talk about this other problem. I have night terrors.

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GUTFELD: Jesse, what do you make of this? Because let's not -- let's keep it separate, what's his face, what's his name again? Bernie --

WATTERS: Yeah.

GUTFELD: -- is talking about people who are in jail, terrorists.

WATTERS: Democrats want terrorists to vote. Think about that one, Greg.

GUTFELD: Yes.

WATTERS: They just handled Donald Trump the wedges of wedge issues they could possibly do. Juan, I have a question. Are Democrats trying to lose this election?

WILLIAMS: No --

WATTERS: I mean this is made to order for Donald Trump. I don't even understand it. This is Willie Horton 2.0. And --

WILLIAMS: Wow, you think Willie Horton is good news? Wow, OK.

WATTERS: This is what it's like. They've totally undercut their whole messaging on election integrity. They've been saying the Russians have been trying to hack the democracy. Then they want to set up voting booths on death row. And I wonder if there's ever going to be any corruption or fraud with the voting process in prison when you have guards with batons looking down on guys filling out their ballots.

It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. And the reason they're doing this, Juan, is because they can't persuade enough actual voters about their ideas so they have to create new voters. And they got rocked in 2016, so instead of trying to change their message, they're just trying to change the rules. This is what they did with the Supreme Court expansion. This is the Electoral College all over again.

Do you think pedophiles voting or serial rapists voting is going to play in Ohio --

WILLIAMS: You know it's not my --

WATTERS: -- or Iowa? I mean, Donald Trump is going to feast on these people and he's going to say Democrats are trying to take away your first amendment rights, second amendment rights, but they want to give voting rights to terrorists.

WILLIAMS: Are you OK?

WATTERS: I'm great.

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WILLIAMS: Oh, let me tell you. In fact, the Democrats got more votes than the Republicans in 2016.

WATTERS: Not in the right states, Juan.

WILLIAMS: Oh, but I'm just telling you --

WATTERS: They're all felons.

GUTFELD: All of them were felons --

WILLIAMS: I agree.

GUTFELD: -- or at least living in California, same thing. I'm from California. Emily, you claim to be a lawyer.

EMILY COMPAGNO, HOST: Yes.

GUTFELD: What are your thoughts on this?

COMPAGNO: I feel so strongly about this. Let's keep it for the moment to the presently incarcerated. You make great points. Definitely, yes, that affects 6 million people a year, basically, that are post-conviction felons.

GUTFELD: Right.

COMPAGNO: But -- why -- I think it raises a lot of great questions. Why do we condemn our incarcerated to civic death? Why, when the Supreme Court has recently affirms every other constitutional right? Why do we take away their right to vote? Why do we support, in essence, a prison-based gerrymandering when these people incarcerated are counted in that legislative district in which they are --

GUTFELD: But, Emily, that's not what Bernie is talking about. Bernie is talking about letting a terrorist vote while he's in jail.

WILLIAMS: He's a citizen still.

GUTFELD: But he's in prison. He doesn't have rights.

COMPAGNO: I want to draw that distinction, too. Make sure that I'm clear for viewers that you can absolutely distinguish violent crime, convicts. And, obviously, I think when you reduce it to that tiny percentage of the serial rapist and that bombers, of course, absolutely not.

But I think it's right to acknowledge the 2.3 million presently incarcerated and to acknowledge that for everyone now, kind of a bipartisan commitment to criminal justice reform, who better to participate potentially than those presently incarcerated. And certainly, you can make the argument is this a 3/5 constitutional clause all over again with that, you know, taxation without representation --

GUTFELD: That would be a lousy argument, Emily. Dana -- let's get Dana in here. Enough of you.

PERINO: I feel like we're kind of missing one of the most important things of last night, and that is that Bernie, yes, he said that. That was his instinct.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: Because I don't think they were anticipating the question. But Mayor Pete Buttigieg had a different answer, and his instinct was something that -- think most of Americans would agree with.

GUTFELD: Would you like to hear that?

PERINO: Yes, please.

GUTFELD: Let's play that tape for Dana. But just for Dana.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Part of the punishment when you're convicted of a crime and you're incarcerated is you lose certain rights. You lose your freedom. And I think during that period, it does not make sense to have an exception for the right to vote.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When people leave the prison system, they need to be reintegrated into their communities. They need to be able to have a chance to get a job, to be able to find decent housing, and they need to be able to participate in the political process, and that means they need the right to vote to be reinstated.

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GUTFELD: Sorry about that, didn't need to have that.

PERINO: So Elizabeth Warren, again, she's trying to solve a different problem --

GUTFELD: Right.

PERINO: -- and that is that after you've served your debt to society.

GUTFELD: Yes, we get it.

PERINO: If we believe that voting is a privilege and as a privilege of your citizenship, there has to be some sort of punishment for committing a crime. And in Florida, there were a lot of Republicans that voted for restoring voting rights to felons. They made a couple exceptions for violent crime and sexual assault, but that is totally different from people being able to vote in prison. And I think Mayor Pete had a much better answer than Bernie last night.

GUTFELD: Yeah, that's why Mayor Pete is rising because he's not crazy. Like you, Emily.

COMPAGNO: I'm not crazy. Only some times. Do you guys -- I feel like -- ask the question, do you guys feel like voting is a privilege or do you feel like it's a right?

WILLIAMS: It's a right.

COMPAGNO: Is it a constitutional right --

WILLIAMS: It's in the constitution. You can't argue it.

WATTERS: Well, well, Juan, if you're a terrorist and you bomb babies and innocent civilians you lose that privilege --

WILLIAMS: No, it doesn't say that. It says you go to jail.

GUTFELD: I don't mind taking that -- right or privilege taken away. They're in jail. They're in a box. And do you think they really care about voting? They're in -- I mean, they already can't leave, so I don't see -- we're arguing over something so stupid.

COMPAGNO: I spent so much time -- I've spent a lot of time with inmates and they do care. And I think that's why -- I think all those studies have shown they might turn towards the Democratic Party. I do feel like a lot of them based on their experience are wholeheartedly for limited government and limited overreach because they're the ones, a lot of the times that are receiving the brunt of it, frankly.

GUTFELD: Well, now you changed my mind.

COMPAGNO: Nice.

GUTFELD: All right.

WILLIAMS: Yeah, you change my mind. You came to me for therapy and I'm crazy now.

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GUTFELD: All right, after several botched rollouts, Joe Biden says he's finally ready to jump into the 2020 race, the latest next.

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WILLIAMS: It looks like Joe is finally a go. Sources say Joe Biden will make his long-awaited 2020 presidential announcement Thursday. He'll then make his first appearance as an official candidate next week in Pittsburgh. But Biden's campaign rollout, well, it's been far from perfect. It's been plagued by delays, for example.

One former aide reportedly saying this, I've never seen anything so half asked. They're improvising and doing last-minute planning. The guy has been running for president since 1987 and can't figure out the basics like where to stand on his first day? This should make everyone very nervous, end quote.

Meanwhile, a new national poll released today has Biden leading the pack with 27 percent. You can see the numbers there at the bottom of the screen. So, Jesse, the quick question for you is, are Republicans scared of Joe Biden?

WATTERS: I don't think they're scared of him. I think Republicans respect Biden and what he's done. And, you know, he has appeal that needs to be recognized. But at the same time, the guy has got terrible timing, poor instincts, and has coasted on Obama's coattails for the last eight years. I just don't think he has the genetic CEO brain that you need to manage a presidential campaign. You have to have something that says I'm a good manager.

And Biden has never shown an ability to manage anything. You have to create a hierarchy. You have to have discipline. You have to have some sort of attention to detail. He's a charming guy, but he's not proficient and he doesn't have the skills to manage a presidential campaign, and that's why it's so sloppy.

I will point out one thing, he's launching in Pittsburgh, which is interesting, Pennsylvania. And Kamala and Sanders have also been in Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and Wisconsin. And President Trump just got back from Michigan, and now he's going to Wisconsin this weekend.

Everything is taking place on the Democrats' turf and that's not a good place for the Democrats to be. Now they're so under pressure to win in their own blue states that it's going to be hard for them because they're going to be spread too thin financially and geographically.

WILLIAMS: All right. So, Dana, let's talk about the rollout. You saw the comments from a former aide, very, very, sort of derisive, saying, hey, you know, he doesn't know what he's doing. So let me just tell you this. The theme that they're looking at is the battle for the soul of America, and they're considering not only will there be a video on Thursday morning but then, possibly, they would have Biden on the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum, you know, like Rocky, I'm ready to go.

And then the question is, does he go to D.C., Delaware, Philadelphia? They ruled out Charlottesville, Virginia, where that terrible incident took place. What do you think of this?

PERINO: I think that -- a couple of things. The rollout, if you're following this every day and you're waiting for him to announce, it looks very sloppy and shaky. But if you look at that poll, people that are Democratic voters look at it like they like him. So, I think that maybe when we're covering it every single day that we don't step back and look at the bigger picture for him.

For the aide -- the former aide that gave that quote, to me that sounds like somebody who was actually on President Obama's team, and because, often, you know, there's the tension between like the presidents team versus the vice president's team. Not on our administration, of course.

And then you can look critically upon somebody's efforts. And it makes me wonder if there are some Obama people who are going to hold back support for Bernie and not actually -- Biden, and not come out for him. You've already seen some people gone to Mayor Pete. I don't think any of them will work for Bernie, but there's definitely not a cohesive unit behind him from the Obama team.

WILLIAMS: All right. So let me just put up some polls that we can show to Greg.

GUTFELD: I love polls, Juan.

WILLIAMS: OK. So here you see in Iowa, that, in fact, Biden is tied with Bernie Sanders according to Democratic -- you know, Democrats voting. How about in New Hampshire? Here we have Bernie Sanders leading almost double what Joe Biden has. But then you get to South Carolina, Biden has a big lead. You get to Nevada, again, Biden with the lead.

Emily, do you want to take a shot? What do you make of those polls?

COMPAGNO: Some of those polls have indicated that Biden support has been literally halved in like the last ten days. So I think there's an argument whether these are accurate. We've all been fooled by polls before. And I think there can be an argument made that, you know, is it fumbling or is it methodical and strategic? And they're so sensitive they -- meaning, the campaign, that they don't want to make a misstep and they want to make sure everything's right. There's the -- of people for him tomorrow in Texas.

Maybe they didn't want to eclipse that. Maybe they didn't want to detract from it. Maybe it's an indication that they're being really scrupulous. And I think, also, I wonder, though, moving forward, although Obama hasn't expressed support at this point, maybe it's Biden, though, that would get the Obama and Clinton money that he would be the benefit of that. We all know that the Democratic Party is kind of hating Bernie right now, but Biden might be the candidate that -- well, everyone is remaining quiet now.

He may be -- and also, what if it's like a Conor Lamb situation where he's representing, you know, the kind of -- the GOP leaning gerrymandering districts that basically were kind of anti-Hillary Clinton. Have they've seen benefits from this administration personally? Would he detract from that? Would Biden, therefore -- I mean, obviously, I'm just full of questions tonight and no answers.

WILLIAMS: So, Greg, what do you make of it?

GUTFELD: I will try to answer all of your questions.

COMPAGNO: Thanks. Thank you.

GUTFELD: I'm amazed how quickly Beto is disappearing since Buttigieg came in. He's disappearing faster than a Twinkie on Michael Moore's lap. Haven't use that one in a while. You know, Biden reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where a person can appear attractive depending on --

WATTERS: The lighting.

GUTFELD: -- the lighting. Sometimes you look at Biden and you go, you know what, he's appealing. He's moderate, sensible. Seems kind of has an air of confidence about him. And then, you see him again and you think, no, he's clumsy. He's not very bright. He could be an absolute disaster. It's kind of like veers from one to the other.

He's like a political pig pen. He's got a big cloud of dust following him. And it's a dust that it's a sense of age, irrelevance, indecision, you can kind of feel it. I think the party doesn't want him. I think -- also, we've got to talk about him doing the video, right?

He did a video to rule out any mistakes, right? It's like, you know, when you do a pre-tape for a TV show, for a really bad guest.

PERINO: Yeah. It's like he's not coming down the escalator.

GUTFELD: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they didn't -- they don't want to trust him. He might fall down the escalator, who knows. But we made fun of Trump. We made fun of Trump for being chaotic, for being --

WATTERS: We did?

GUTFELD: I'm sure I did. I think I did every day. I think I made fun of the going down the escalator. I think I said his campaign was over when he went down the escalator.

WATTERS: Wow.

GUTFELD: See, I can tell you when I'm wrong.

PERINO: We started our show today with the Bernie comments.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: But he is Teflon as well for the Democrats. Like his base is -- their unshakable.

GUTFELD: He's Teflon and --

WILLIAMS: One last quick thing, you said Democrats really don't want him. I think the polls indicate that he is.

GUTFELD: I think the name recognition, I don't know.

WILLIAMS: So you think it will quickly --

GUTFELD: I still put money on Kamala or Kamala.

PERINO: Really?

GUTFELD: I don't know why? I'm just got that feeling.

WILLIAMS: Now that's interesting.

WATTERS: It's Kamala.

GUTFELD: Kamala?

WATTERS: It's Kamala.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

WATTERS: I mean the pronunciation.

GUTFELD: Yeah, yeah --

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GUTFELD: What about Kristen Gillibrand?

WILLIAMS: You know what? We're going to put the U back in your name.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: All right --

WATTERS: Oh.

WILLIAMS: Hillary Clinton hammering President Trump over the Mueller report. What she's saying about impeachment, that's next right here for you on “The Five.”

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WATTERS: Even more 2020 Democrats are jumping on the Trump impeachment train.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If any other human being in this country had done what's documented in the Mueller report, they would be arrested and put in jail.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe that we need to get rid of this president. I believe Congress should take the steps towards impeachment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think he's made it pretty clear that he deserves impeachment. I'm also going to leave it to the House and Senate to figure that out.

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WATTERS: And now Hillary Clinton is getting in on the action and showing that she's still not over 2016. Clinton, actually, claiming that Mueller was too easy on Trump, even after the FBI gave her a free pass.

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HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think there's enough there that any other person who had engaged in those acts would certainly have been indicted. As I read it, basically, what I thought it was saying is, look, we think he obstructed justice. Here are 11 examples of why we think he obstructed justice.

I mean, you could not be more explicit than, please, look at this. You may look at it and conclude it doesn't rise to an impeachable offense. That's your job. But I'm giving this to you.

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WATTERS: All right, Dana, Trump was investigated for a crime that never existed. I just don't see how Democrats can take this and run with it.

PERINO: It is interesting that Bernie and Nancy Pelosi are leading the anti-impeachment charge.

WATTERS: Very interesting.

PERINO: Right? So -- I think that they also have like the old guard versus the new guard. And the new guard is saying, well, we're not beholden to history and what happened with Bill Clinton, and the Republicans failed attempts to impeach the president and get rid of Bill Clinton. We're not beholden to that.

So we want -- and primary voters, the Democratic caucus they like -- we want impeachment to be at least attempted. But smart people go, well, wait, it's never going to happen in the Senate. And by the time they get to that point they'll be like well into the end of this year, beginning of next year, and then President Trump is off to the races and probably hitting all those spots you just talked about in the Midwest.

And that's why I think somebody like Mayor Pete, he says, well, yeah, I think we should not have this president but I'm going to let the House and Senate deal with that. So he sidesteps it.

WATTERS: Yeah, Mayor Pete looking good on “The Five” today, I would say. Very impressive. And I think -- isn't he doing a town hall with Fox News?

GUTFELD: He is. He's -- well, you know what's -- the bar is so low for charisma, right? There's no charisma on that stage. And I think that Mayor Pete is in the top level of charisma. He seems kind of at ease with himself.

And when you -- compared with Liz Warren you know, a fern is charismatic. But look, the Democrats are like a drunk at a party that doesn't have any booze. So, they're in your hair in your bathroom ingesting hand disinfectant and mouthwash. So, you've got the booming economy, you've got low unemployment, you've got a strong defense and you've got America that is respected and feared for once. Not much left on the table for you to drink. So, they're running the impeachment is basically the hand disinfectant and the mouthwash in the bathroom.

WATTERS: When you invite Greg to a party, make sure you have alcohol.

PERINO: Lock the bathroom.

WATTERS: He will go through your cabinets. Emily, I mean the Democrats completely divided on impeachment, it looks weak that they can't decide which way to go.

COMPAGNO: Yes, it looks weak. And I also think that it's wasting time and all of our resources. We've discussed before that in my opinion, the colossal effort that it would take. And even Nancy Pelosi for example saying well you know there is kind of a lot of steps from zero to 100. There is a lot of ways to probe and investigate and get facts before bringing the articles of impeachment. Well that's all a waste of time too. It's all the same thing. It means you're not legislating.

I think Hillary Clinton in that clip. It was disturbing to me because I felt that it lacked the specificity and the intellectualism that she could have shined. And I don't see Mayor Pete's response actually sidestepping. I see it as - what's the word when you like - delegate.

GUTFELD: Ice cream.

COMPAGNO: Yes.

GUTFELD: Ice cream.

COMPAGNO: Let them do their job. That's what we left them for like they're the ones whose opinion matter and I thought that was kind of disgusting.

WATTERS: Because he's a mayor, he can just delegate it to the House or the Senate. Juan, I mean obstruction really. He turned over everything. What did he obstruct?

WILLIAMS: Oh! Gosh, you should read that report.

WATTERS: What did he obstruct?

WILLIAMS: He was obstructing the Mueller's probe.

WATTERS: He tried to obstruct.

WILLIAMS: Fire Mueller in fact.

WATTERS: OK. So, you want to impeach for not firing the counsel. Is that it?

WILLIAMS: What are you talking about? He tried to do it. In fact, right now, the argument coming out of this Trump White House is attacking Don McGahn because he is the one who has told his story to Mueller. And he is going to tell the story in front of--

WATTERS: I'm trying to do so which he has perfectly legal responsibility to do. You want to impeach him.

WILLIAMS: You go ahead with - remember last night that Greg was worried about night tremors and nightmares. I think you're living a nightmare. Anyway, let's get to this topic.

WATTERS: Every day is a daydream for Juan.

WILLIAMS: Let's get to this topic because you guys act as if Republicans vote in Democratic primaries. Guess what. It's just Democrats and you know what it's like 70 percent of Democrats and say continue the investigation.

WATTERS: And terrorists too.

WILLIAMS: Yes, continue the investigation. But more than half. In other words, I think its 52 percent of Democrats want Trump impeached. And so, what you're seeing is that the candidates are responding to the fact that most Democrats want to see them not lay down but play the hardball and the cheating that goes on among Republicans who closed their eyes to what Trump is doing.

WATTERS: You guys wanted Trump to impeach.

WILLIAMS: Get out of here.

WATTERS: Before the report came out.

WILLIAMS: No.

WATTERS: You've been screaming about it for two years.

WILLIAMS: I will say this, when you look at independents who are a critical cohort if you're looking about the 2020 election, what you see there is 44 percent oppose impeachment.

WATTERS: Juan.

WILLIAMS: It's no division. I think Pelosi is right to say.

WATTERS: All right.

WILLIAMS: Let's keep looking, but we don't need to jump right now.

WATTERS: All right. I feel like I need to jump off of something. Up next, if you thought Democrats were done with ridiculous Green New Deal proposals, think again.

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PERINO: The Green New Deal coming to a city near you. Take for example right here in New York City. Mayor Bill de Blasio bailing a new proposal that would ban iconic skyscrapers to help fight climate change. Watch.

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BILL DE BLASIO, MAYOR, NEW YORK CITY: We're actually making the Green New Deal come alive here in New York City. We're going to ban the classic glass and steel skyscrapers which are incredibly inefficient. If someone wants to build on those things, they can take a whole lot of steps to make it energy efficient but we're not going to allow what we used to see in the past.

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PERINO: So, skyscrapers, no Steel. I get it in terms of energy production. But how are you going to build a skyscraper without steel. Take a look at the New York Post cover today. This actually made me laugh out loud when they--

WATTERS: LOL.

PERINO: Stone Age. I still say laugh out loud. Greg.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: Come on, help me.

GUTFELD: You could have saved time just saying LOL.

PERINO: LOL.

GUTFELD: All right. He takes--

PERINO: It's the same laugh out loud.

GUTFELD: OK. He's an idiot. We all know that. He takes an entire motorcade every day from the Upper East Side to Brooklyn to the gym. So, every day he does this. His defense of this practice is that well he's enacted energy policies citywide that allows him to abuse his own beliefs, his strengths. I'm forcing you. The New York citizen to sacrifice so I don't have to.

PERINO: Yes.

GUTFELD: I mean that is - these are jackass. Imagine a personal trainer who wakes you up every morning and demands that you do a grim routine of military style boot camp exercises and it's fine. You get up out of bed and you see that he's morbidly obese and he's eating the world's biggest hoagie. That's this jerk.

PERINO: Take a look at it. We have that response actually from Bill de Blasio about his gym commute. Watch.

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BLASIO: Let's be clear, this is just part of my life. I come from that neighborhood in Brooklyn. That's my home. I go there on a regular basis to stay connected to where I come from and not be in the bubble that I think for a lot of politicians is a huge problem. But the fact is that those cars and that security detail are part of the life of being mayor in New York City.

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PERINO: Jesse, you've got to get away from the skyscrapers and go to Brooklyn and get out of the bubble.

WATTERS: You know I'm glad he's in the gym and he's not messing everything up at work. The guy is a liar. People are not building skyscrapers in New York City anymore not because he said they're not allowed to, because he kicked Amazon out, so no one wants to do business here anymore. This is worse than Meatless Mondays for me. It's like an empty gesture. When you're a mayor, a politician like this and you lose and you lose and you lose day after day after day, you have to fight something like global warming and then you just declare victory and no one knows because no one can keep count of who's winning and who's losing.

Global warming is not something you need to fight. It's not something that you can even win against and not building a skyscraper, I'm tempted to use the horse analogy, the producer warned me against it. But progressives think when they're making progress, they do that by going backwards and I think the Stone Age thing perfectly encapsulated that.

PERINO: Emily you don't live in New York City, you visit often. What do you think of this?

COMPAGNO: I think this is so ridiculous. So, first of all, like all of these plans when you look into the specifics, it's absolutely absurd. So, remember how in part of the speech too he was like the Hudson yard was built all messed up or whatever and then the developer came out it was like that's funny because my all glass building actually is literally certified lead platinum which is the highest U.S. green rating and that Bank of America building on 42nd. Someone calculated that it also is certified lead platinum and yet it would have to pay $2.5 million in fines.

There is not even enough contractors to have all of these 50,000 buildings that this affects be brought up to code. So, it's just one more wasting everyone's time.

PERINO: Juan, I'm sure you agree.

WILLIAMS: Not at all. In fact, you know what I think that's very interesting to me that you guys are so apoplectic. I wonder what are you afraid of in terms of having a conversation because we all that he is doing - you're not having a conversation, you're like running. Oh my God, he wants to actually--

GUTFELD: It's a fact.

WILLIAMS: You know what the reality is, all he's talking about is tightening the codes, so that they are more efficient.

PERINO: How about picking up the trash.

WILLIAMS: Let me finish and what are you saying is if you're in a smaller building, you don't have to play by these rules. Public housing, they don't have to play by these rules, rent control not play. He's talking about the - and Jesse says they're not building skyscraper. Jesse you need to walk around. They're building skyscrapers right here. You can see one from this studio. There is building all over New York is booming. And guess what, people want something done on climate change. Republicans have no plans. And yet they want to scream at everybody else who says hey let's have some rational conversation about how we can do better in terms of energy efficiency/.

PERINO: 115 people are leaving the city a day, leaving.

WATTERS: Ask the unions if they want to stop building skyscrapers.

WILLIAMS: No, nobody says stop building. He said, tighten the code so that they are - buildings are more energy efficient.

WATTERS: I did not hear tighten the code. I heard no more skyscrapers.

WILLIAMS: That's because that's in your dream.

PERINO: All right. We've got more stuff to come to your way. A controversial new plan by Starbucks, the chain now adding needle disposal boxes to bathrooms. That's up next on The Five.

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COMPAGNO: Starbucks rolling out a controversial new plan in response to drug use in store bathrooms. The company forced to add needle disposal boxes over growing health and safety concerns. Now the boxes are already in 25 markets with plans to expand this summer. A Starbucks spokesperson explaining "these societal issues affect us all and can sometimes place our partners in scary situations, which is why we have protocols and resources in place to ensure our partners are out of harm's way."

Now, this is interesting to me because the catalyst for this actually was one, employee sign thousands of them signing a petition. So, this is kind of like an employer responding to an employee request. Yes, like a workplace accommodation almost. And then secondly, the government investigation that was that ensued after two were poked by syringes in the same month. So, I'll go around the horn. What do you think about?

GUTFELD: It's all about fear of being sued. But you know a city run by the left, the city becomes a bathroom and the bathroom becomes a shooting gallery. Businesses are in a bind. You want to treat your property the way you wanted to be treated. No shirts, no shoes, no junkies, no service. Right. That's what you want to say. But then you incur the wrath of the Wok.

So, you just give up and just say forget it. Put the boxes in there but you fail to understand the incentives that once word of mouth is that you could shoot up in the bathroom, you're going to have more people shooting up. That's just the way it works.

WILLIAMS: I think in fact; most businesses say that they have seen evidence of drug use in their bathrooms.

GUTFELD: Yes.

WILLIAMS: It's not just Starbucks. So, it's a reality. And then a lot of businesses in addition to having like emergency aid kits have sharp kits as their so-called.

GUTFELD: Yes.

WILLIAMS: But they're not necessarily stuck on the wall. Now Starbucks is saying they're going to put them on the wall in the bathrooms. So, what strikes me is Starbucks recently had said that you know anybody can use the bathroom. So, if you do that you know what you're going to get people who want to misbehave. Some lars you go in, they don't even have a door on the bathroom stall because they're so aware of people doing drugs in the bathroom.

GUTFELD: I hate those bars.

PERINO: I've never been in one of those.

WATTERS: Obviously not.

COMPAGNO: Dana, what do you think about the argument that it incentivizes.

PERINO: Well, it's interesting to the point that I wrote down is this the government failing here and that the private sector has to figure out a way to deal with it. Probably because when Starbucks made that announcement that they were going to go to allowing everybody to come in to use the bathroom, we also like there that's inevitable. But is it a public service? So, is like are we turning our businesses into what should be a government responsibility. Sounds like it.

COMPAGNO: Yes.

WATTERS: I would never second guess a multinational corporation. I think they're always correct. And I think I'm going to agree with them this time. Listen, it's like handing out condoms in high school. You know people had that debate a long time ago. They're going to do it anyway. You might as well have them use protection. I don't think junkies are going into Starbucks to shoot up, because they know they can dispose of the needles appropriately. I think they're just trying to protect their employees from getting poked by a dirty syringe being between making me a mocha Frappuccino.

COMPAGNO: I mean I think like the cost benefit analysis, the risk associated with making blood contact on it getting poked or whatever. Like one of those employees get some type of disease that is literally untreated. I mean that's--

WILLIAMS: You could get HIV and get hepatitis.

COMPAGNO: I mean it's worth potentially the millions installing it and it's only in certain markets per se. One could argue in this.

WATTERS: Yes, I mean they're probably just in San Francisco or you know somewhere in the village or something like that. It's just not a widespread situation.

PERINO: Yes, this is not happening in Cheyenne.

WATTERS: Right. It's a great company. You ever see how nice the people are that work at Starbucks. I mean they're the nicest people.

GUTFELD: We know what you're doing Jesse, you're trying to get a free drink.

WATTERS: I don't need to get a free drink; I can afford an espresso.

PERINO: Mocha cappuccino.

WATTERS: Yes.

COMPAGNO: Oh! Is that what you're doing?

WATTERS: No.

COMPAGNO: I don't know. OK. Whatever. One More Thing is up next, guys.

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GUTFELD: One More Thing. Dana?

PERINO: OK, from one bookworm to another. I want to congratulate Audrey Berryman (ph) she's an Arizona high schooler. She got a perfect score on her ACTs. She is in her junior year at Glendale Prep Academy. She has been an avid reader her whole life and she really credits that for helping her do so well on the test. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was like my escape. That's where I got to read mystery novels. And I remember and they're all sort of like fantasy ones and I just loved this idea of being like transported into another world. I just love the knowledge so much. Like I want to get this answer right. I want to achieve that. And so, it's never hard work. I just I want to do this.

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PERINO: Good for Audrey. 1.9 million students took the pre-college standardized test last year and only like - fewer than 3800 received a perfect score. Why are you laughing at me?

GUTFELD: I watched Jesse roll his eyes, while you were talking about ...

WATTERS: That was the most Dana OMT.

PERINO: Was that like because you were concerned about me?

WATTERS: No.

GUTFELD: That was the most Dana OMT.

PERINO: Why do you think they chose for me?

WATTERS: If you've added a dog that would have been like hattrick.

GUTFELD: She took the test with her dog and got a perfect score.

PERINO: In Wyoming.

WATTERS: In Wyoming, of course. Do you want to hear Jesse OMT?

PERINO: Yes.

WATTERS: The Trump impersonator Long Island ironworker. Watch this guy.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Long Island Railroad is screwing up his job. It's a horrible job. I have hired my good friend John Valente and it's great, he is a tremendous people. And I'm going to tell you right now, we have to come in and do this job on time and under budget. We're going to go with all of the area, two good people. They're Italian, but they're good.

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WATTERS: They're Italian but they're good. There he is. Thomas Mundy is his name.

GUTFELD: All right.

PERINO: Free this weekend.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: Don't forget.

WATTERS: No, I canceled.

GUTFELD: Juan.

WILLIAMS: All right. So, last week with spring break for a DC public school kid, so we took a vacation. I brought back some pictures here we are at the airport and we're all wearing the same tracksuits in case you can't notice, some people thought we were a singing group.

WATTERS: Oh! My God.

WILLIAMS: In fact, we've got so much attention. Really. We've got so much attention; the U.S. surgeon general came over and he took the picture then he was off to Belize and here I am with my wife overlooking the Caribbean and here's my daughter with her husband and the grandkids. Yes. And here we are with the grandkids at a restaurant and the pool. Yes, I got in the pool too. And we were snorkeling even got to jump in with the shark. Here's Eli and Pepper looking over the edge, at the boat as the sharks gathered beneath. It was a fun trip and I'm glad to be back here on The Five, but also in the Grand Canyons of New York skyscrapers Jesse.

WATTERS: You know Juan, stay an extra week in Belize next time.

WILLIAMS: I would be glad to.

PERINO: It's an island off of Central Park.

GUTFELD: I haven't done this in a while. I hate these people. I made it clear how much I despise Twitter, but I've realized why I despise it so much. It's because no matter what kind of person you are, you are a lesser person on Twitter and the reason is because you elevate the drama in your emotions right. So, you might be a normal person. But on Twitter you become like Mrs. Drysdale (ph) or Mrs. Powell (ph) or that lady in the Three Stooges. That always gets mad at the Three Stooges. I can't remember her name large woman always screaming. That's what you become.

What you see on Twitter now are people saying things like, I'm literally shaking like something - see something that they didn't like on TV. I'm literally or I'm in tears or crying over or there are no words. OK, so this - you're the problem. You're the problem. If Twitter is going to survive. People have to dial back this drama because it's so repulsive--

PERINO: And the complaints.

WILLIAMS: And the complaints, it's terrible. Somebody said this I don't know who it was said that if Jack Dorsey decided to eliminate Twitter, he would get a Nobel Prize. I don't know who said it, it was Red Stevens (ph), maybe I don't know. All right, Emily take it away.

COMPAGNO: OK. So, in this age of wellness everything we now have wellness beer. So, there are a few companies one in particular that kind of refers to themselves as the Gatorade of beer. They're creating - no, it has alcohol in it.

GUTFELD: Thank God for that.

COMPAGNO: But it also has things like chia seeds and electrolytes and bee pollen and et cetera.

WATTERS: Bee pollen.

PERINO: What's it tastes like?

COMPAGNO: I don't know.

WATTERS: It gives you--

WILLIAMS: I like that.

COMPAGNO: So, yes, so after hard work out now you can celebrate with a brew. So, bottoms--

PERINO: I never work out that hard or fast.

GUTFELD: I think it's suffer fest.

COMPAGNO: Yes, that's kind of the main company.

GUTFELD: Suffer fest. That's a terrible name. I don't want to have to suffer fest.

PERINO: Is that what's it called?

COMPAGNO: Yes.

GUTFELD: All right. Never miss an episode of “The Five.” "Special Report" is up next.

Hello, Bret.

BRET BAIER, ANCHOR: Hello, Greg.

Juan, where can I get one of those tracksuits. All right. This is a Fox News alert.

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