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This is a rush transcript from “Your World with Neil Cavuto” November 20, 2020. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

NEIL CAVUTO, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: All right, we are keeping track, well, of a
lot of meetings and gatherings.

The president of the United States meeting with top Michigan Republican
leadership on that vote count that's going on there. You think it's
probably resolved and done. Not necessarily.

Then, Joe Biden, the president-elect and his powwow with Chuck Schumer and
Nancy Pelosi about how to proceed immediately and maybe goose some lame-
duck stimulus talks.

All of that, and the vice president of the United States helping out those
two Georgia Republican candidates. They're simultaneously up for a run-off
election on January 5, and he is doing his best to make sure they both get
in.

Welcome, everybody. I'm Neil Cavuto, and this is "Your World."

So many fast and furious developments right now, not the least of which is
a curious meeting at the White House that includes the state majority
leader, Mike Shirkey, and the House of speaker, Lee Chatfield. They're very
instrumental in the role of that ongoing count here and have expressed
support for the president trying to make sure that every legal vote is
counted.

But how far they will go and how much the president can weigh in on this is
anyone's guess.

Let's go to Kevin Corke right now with the very latest -- Kevin.

KEVIN CORKE, FOX NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Perfect lead-in right
there, Neil. Good to be with you this afternoon.

You're right. There is so much happening in this race in the Great Lakes
State of Michigan. A number of people want to know what will happen with
the ongoing vote. Will all the legal votes be counted? And what to do about
those canvassers who say they don't want to certify the vote in Wayne
County?

So, we're talking about possible intimidation in some circles, and
ultimately an invitation right here to the White House, as you mentioned, a
pair of state lawmakers from Michigan right here to have a conversation
with the president of the United States.

Now, a lot of people are wondering, what's that conversation going to be
about? Well, I can tell you, we asked the press secretary, Kayleigh
McEnany, about that. And she sort of seemed to characterize the meeting as
more or less routine. She said something along the lines of, listen, the
president meets with state leaders all the time.

What she didn't drill down on is what might be the tone and tenor of this
particular conversation, in particular, when you consider what is at stake
in the state of Michigan, just the very latest twist IN what has been a
very hotly contested race, obviously, in Michigan, people still wanting to
know not just about that conversation, but is there are a pathway
ultimately to change the outcome of the apparent vote in that state, which
is currently led by Joe Biden?

Now, I can tell you, Neil, we have actually seen affidavits from a pair of
canvassers here at the White House. We -- in our time here at the White
House. These are from canvassers over in Michigan. They say they want to
rescind their votes right now, because they don't want to certify the vote
in Wayne County, say too many irregularities there.

We also heard the president talk just a bit about his thoughts on what's
happening in that place and other challenges around the country. Listen
here.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Big pharma ran millions of
dollars of negative advertisements against me during the campaign -- which
I won, by the way. But we'll find that out.

We had big pharma against us. We had the media against us. We had big tech
against us. We had a lot of dishonesty against us.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CORKE: So, there you go. You heard the president say: "I won, by the way.
We will find that out."

Just the backdrop as we continue to keep an eye here on the North Portico
here at the White House. Hopefully, we will get a chance to see some of
those lawmakers either going in or coming out, Neil.

We will keep an eye on it. We do anticipate, as always, some sort of a
readout. I promise, as soon as I get anything, I will pass it along -- but,
for now, back to you.

CAVUTO: All right, thank you, my friend, very, very much, Kevin Corke at
the White House.

Mike Shirkey, the Senate majority leader who is meeting with the president
as we speak, along with the speaker of the Michigan House, he was accosted
at the airport on his way to meet the president. Take a look at this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you honor the will of the Michigan voters?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CAVUTO: All right. Well, that went well.

What comes in it and this powwow the president's having with these two
gentlemen at the White House, we might know momentarily.

But John Pavia with the -- Quinnipiac law adjunct professor with us.

Now, John, I do want to get into the legalities of this and how far it
goes. But I'm also, maybe because I'm the numbers guy here at FOX, a bit of
a nerd. The numbers look daunting for the president right now, even in
Michigan. He looks like he lost it by 150,000 votes. That's a lot of votes
to make up, whether ballots were questionable or not.

But maybe, maybe it's possible. In Georgia, the fight is still on, even
though that state has all but been certified and approved right now with a
13,000-vote edge for Joe Biden, in Pennsylvania, more than 81,000-vote edge
favoring Joe Biden. I guess it could turn around.

But when the president hasn't even given up on Arizona, which was called
for Joe Biden, and the gap there of 11,000 votes, I guess what I'm trying
to say is, mathematically, he'd have to run the table on all of this,
wouldn't he?

JOHN PAVIA, QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY: Yes, he would, Neil.

And that's why I think, going back to day one, right after the Election
Day, I said, this is really not like what our team dealt with back in 2000,
right? The margin of victory is too much in too many states.

And so where we're at today with these Michigan legislators, the Republican
state legislators coming to the White House, I actually think this had to
have been the strategy from day one, knowing that it's going to be almost
impossible to find enough invalid ballots to overturn any of these states'
final counts.

Then you have to go to sort of plan B, which is, under our Constitution,
any state has the ability to sort of pull the right to vote back into the
state legislature, the way it was when the country was first founded, and
have the legislature cast the votes of which candidate won those electoral
votes.

It's still a very -- I mean, let's face it, it's still a Hail Mary of
sorts. But I think this day was coming from the time -- Wednesday after the
election, that this was the strategy. And now we're going to see. And it's
a domino strategy. Can you get one state legislature to say, hey, we're
casting our ballots for -- our electoral votes for Donald Trump, even
though the citizens here voted for Joe Biden?

And then, if you get one state, do you get another? I don't think it's
going to happen. But I can assure you, that's the conversation. He's
leaning on them pretty hard, I'm sure, there in the Oval Office.

CAVUTO: I would imagine, John, that would be controversial, to put it
mildly...

(LAUGHTER)

CAVUTO: ... if the electors end up going for the person who didn't win the
popular vote in that state.

Seen as unprecedented as that might be, we have had elections called and
gone into the House over other issues nearly half-a-dozen times in our
nation's past. But that would incite a crisis in itself, wouldn't it?

PAVIA: Oh, huge.

I mean, I can't think of how many Donald Trump euphemisms and adjectives to
describe how humongous it would be and tremendous.

(LAUGHTER)

PAVIA: But the bigger thing here is -- and I have said this a couple of
times now -- number one, what kind of impact will it have in Georgia? I
mean, could it turn people off to voting for a Republican, if this goes on
too long? That's part A.

Part B is, Donald Trump becomes a private citizen pretty soon, assuming he
does not -- he's not successful in his attempts to stay in the Oval Office.
And, as you know all too well, there's still a lot of attorney generals and
I think maybe federal prosecutors who are thinking about, are there things
within -- in his income tax returns that they'd love to prosecute him on?

I'm not saying it would happen, but I don't think he's going to make any
friends by prolonging this. But, with that said, this is his right.

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO: And those investigations and pursuits would go much more
aggressively against a private citizen Donald Trump than they would have a
President Trump, correct?

PAVIA: Yes, and a private Donald Trump that really pushed this to the limit
in terms of trying to overturn the results of election night.

CAVUTO: Got it.

PAVIA: So, he's -- I know he doesn't take advice well, but he's got to
start thinking about stuff like that, because, as I said last night here,
he's not building up any kind of equity in the goodwill bank by pushing
this.

With that said, this is his right. And I think from -- what the citizens
are getting an education right now is how our Constitution works. And it's
not great for the country. It's great for -- if you're a con law professor
at Quinnipiac teaching on election law. It's like -- it gives me great
material.

CAVUTO: So, John, real quickly on that, it is within his right to count the
ballots, but let me ask you this.

Is it within his right, and do you see any truth to his charge that he won
easily and handily and this was fraudulent and rigged and he has the proof?
Because, time and again, when we have sought that proof, or wanted to take
a look at these hundreds of affidavits that have supposedly been signed to
argue the case, we don't see them.

Now, maybe they're saving them for some moment. But I'm just wondering...

PAVIA: Yes, there's...

CAVUTO: ... do you think this was a fraudulently won election on the part
of Joe Biden, from what you have seen?

PAVIA: I don't.

And when it ended, he made the allegations. And my first thought was, OK,
so now you have to come up with proof of real systemic fraud, right? Every
presidential election, there's these wacky ballots, and you get affidavits
of people who said these the -- a bag of ballots were dropped off or burnt
in some -- I mean, that happens in every election.

But you had to come up with something that shocks the conscience of people.
And they haven't. There's no evidence. And there's not enough evidence, not
nearly enough.

So, no. Joe Biden, I think, is going to be the next president. And I think
Donald Trump has the right to do what he's doing. And I -- but I think,
after tomorrow, if these state legislators come out of the Oval Office,
say, Mr. President, we're just not going to go back to Michigan and tell
people that we're not going to follow the will of the voters, I think he
really needs to start saying, let me -- let me, to the extent I can, now
try to be a gracious loser and do the right thing.

CAVUTO: All right, we will see.

John Pavia, thank you.

That's what we're waiting for here, as you're looking at the White House
right now, the North Portico here. Very soon, we should see these gentlemen
leave, these top legislators from Michigan, and whether they have indeed
responded to the pressure from the president to at least consider some of
the things he's saying.

They might address the press. They might not.

In the meantime, the president-elect, Joe Biden, himself, who is convinced,
on January 20, he will be sworn in, already dotting his I's, crossing his
T's on things he might be able to do with Democratic leadership Nancy
Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, meeting with them today in Wilmington.

Peter Doocy has the latest on how all that went.

Hey, Peter.

PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: And, Neil, good afternoon.

The president-elect appears ready to take the name the people's house to
heart, because he told Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer shortly after they
arrived that, when he is in the Oval Office, mi casa es su casa, my house
is your house.

The transition team really did not give cameras very much time inside the
theater where a room has been converted into a temporary office space with
some placards that say, "The Office of the President-Elect."

You can see it there. And it was hard to hear much of what Biden said
because of distance from the microphone and also because of masks. But the
speaker of the House told us before she got here that the point of this
meeting was going to be to talk about how to approach the lame-duck
session, how to avoid a government shutdown, and how to invest in
infrastructure and clean energy.

This is the rare meeting during the transition for Biden with out-of-
towners that is not conducted via Zoom. And it is the only thing on his
schedule today, his 78th birthday. So we do expect them to add some ice
cream in there somewhere as well -- Neil.

CAVUTO: Seventy-eight years old.

All right, thank you, Peter Doocy, for that.

Let's go to Mark Warner right now, the Virginia Democrat, Senate
Intelligence Committee ranking member.

Senator, always good to see you. Thank you for taking the time.

Do you believe that maybe part of this meeting the president-elect had with
Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer was to sort of push along a stimulus deal,
perhaps before the president-elect even takes over in January? Is that
doable, in your eyes?

SEN. MARK WARNER (D-VA): Neil, I want to get to that.

But I just got to, like, say, guys -- and I appreciate your honesty and
straightforwardness.

But I just hope you remind your viewers Joe Biden won this race by six
million votes. There's 306 electoral votes. In virtually every one of these
close states, he won by bigger margins than President Trump won in 2016.

This election, based upon Donald Trump's own appointees, was the cleanest
and least interfered with, thank God, due to Chris Krebs and CISA and our
intel community and our law enforcement.

Thirty days out, we were afraid of -- we were afraid of foreign
interference. We were afraid there might be violence in our elections.
Thank God Americans turned out, record numbers for Donald Trump, bigger
numbers for Joe Biden.

The system worked. And the vast majority -- and the one thing I just wish
more of my Republican Senate friends would get on FOX and say -- some of
them have said it, but there is not a single one that I have talked to that
isn't privately embarrassed by the antics of Donald Trump in the last
couple weeks, in refusing to acknowledge the will of the American people.

Now, in terms of a stimulus package...

CAVUTO: Well, Ben Sasse has said -- Ben Sasse has said that. Mitt Romney
has said that.

But you wanted to bring this up. And I think it's a good time to bring it
up, Senator.

WARNER: A whole bunch...

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO: This notion that the president might never -- I hear you, but that
this president might never concede, or he might grudgingly concede and say
that the other guy won by trickery.

Do you think that is a wise strategy that, if -- even if he is saying, all
right, in the end, I tried everything again to turn around what he views to
be a rigged and fraudulent election, that that will be good enough, that
people will look at that not the way the president wants it to be looked
that?

WARNER: Well, Neil, thank goodness you and responsible broadcasters even on
conservative networks are being willing to not play into that falsehood.

When the president-elect is not getting the presidential daily brief on the
intel basis, that is making our country less safe. When the president-elect
is not getting the coronavirus information that he needs, that is making us
less safe.

When I am fearful that we have seen the defense secretary fired, that Chris
Krebs fired, I worry about the CIA director and the FBI director. That is
not making us more safe.

When we arbitrarily -- and I think there ought to be a plan to get out of
Afghanistan, but it ought to be a plan that is done in concert with the 30
nations who have fought with us and our Afghan allies, who have died with
us. And when those troop levels are brought down arbitrarily, with no
warning, that does not make us more safe.

And I just implore your viewers who -- even no matter how big of Donald
Trump supporters they are, that they ought to recognize we ought to be
about rule of law. And if Donald Trump wants to play out all his actions,
fine, but not going through the beginnings of a peaceful transfer of power
-- my God, you don't need disinformation coming out of Russia.

It's coming out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Now, to the virus and the relief package, it is almost criminal that the
Senate is breaking and not staying in and putting another COVID package.

I love the fact that the market is so high, but when we are looking at a
cliff of ending the unemployment, ending the rent for -- the rental
forbearance, the mortgage forbearance, the student debt forbearance, where
my small businesses and restaurants are closing left and right...

CAVUTO: So, you want to move quickly. I understand.

I don't mean to jump on you, Senator.

WARNER: Yes, I want to move quickly.

CAVUTO: I do want to go back to what you were saying about the president,
though.

Let me ask you this very, very quickly. He might not budge on this whole
thing. And I'm beginning to wonder. Some of your Democratic colleagues have
expressed enough concern to Joe Biden that he should be countering a legal
assault on the president's legal assault, because they're concerned, by not
answering it, they might be teeing up a long, protracted legal struggle
here, and that he should -- he should be doing that.

What do you say?

WARNER: My -- listen, I went to law school, but I would never pretend to be
a lawyer.

It seems to me, from what I have read from, from your commentary and
others, the president has virtually lost all of these lawsuits. And what I
think Donald Trump would want is, he wants -- we know one thing Donald
Trump is great at. He's great at punch, punch, punch.

And I think Joe Biden really wants to try to be president of folks voted
for him and folks who didn't vote for him. And I think, so far, him not
taking the bait makes sense.

But I do implore business leaders. Every business organization that I'm
aware of in the country has said, let's go through this orderly transition.
Those people who still have Mr. Trump's ear, I hope, at some point, they
will make the case that we need to...

CAVUTO: Well, they haven't reached it.

But let me ask you this, Senator. And I -- my producers want to kill me.

WARNER: Sure.

CAVUTO: But this is an interesting...

(CROSSTALK)

WARNER: Sure.

CAVUTO: This -- if the president never concedes, doesn't go to the
inauguration, doesn't have any of the stuff where he meets his successor at
the White House, you know, the normal things we do...

WARNER: Sure.

CAVUTO: ... that are part of this whole pageantry of a change in power, how
would you feel about that?

WARNER: I would be, frankly, not surprised by Mr. Trump once again showing
-- putting his own personal ego first, and I think it would be a great
disrespect.

I think it would be a great disrespect for the 73 million Americans who
voted for Donald Trump that he wouldn't honor the traditions of the office
of the presidency.

CAVUTO: All right, Senator Warner, thank you very, very much.

The senator speaking out on that.

The president has said that, by almost anything he's examined and his
campaign team that's challenging all of this has examined, there was
fraudulent and rampant, and rampant irregularities, so much so, the
president insists again and again that he won substantially.

There are no numbers to confirm that, no numbers that even get us close to
that. But the fight goes on.

And the question right now is, at what point does the president say, that's
it?

So far, not now.

Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CAVUTO: All right, Pfizer is searching for emergency approval by the FDA
for its vaccine. It's done in coordination with BioNTech.

Here's the thing, though. That vaccine has to be very, very cold, about 94
degrees below zero cold. Easier said than done.

Edward Lawrence has some ideas they're kicking around to make sure it can
happen -- Edward.

EDWARD LAWRENCE, FOX NEWS BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Neil, the cold
storage business is really heating up here.

They have never been busier at Thermo Fisher Scientific. These are products
that are ready to go out the door. They're testing them. You can see
they're testing this unit at negative-92 degrees Celsius. Now, negative-70
degrees Celsius is what Pfizer and BioNTech need. That's also negative-94
Degrees Fahrenheit.

The demand for these units globally has never been bigger than right now.
In fact, the company realized that this was coming after they had their
first contact with vaccine makers. And so they started to gear up. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MITCH COYNE, VICE PRESIDENT, GENERAL MANAGER OF CONTROLLED TEMPERATURE
TECHNOLOGIES, THERMO FISHER: No, this is a new level, new capacity levels
for our cold storage business. And it's been something we have been
planning, again, back from the March/April time frame, when production
started.

And when we thought about how this was going to be distributed to the
market, we took some significant actions in the middle of the summer to
ramp up our production and our raw material plan.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LAWRENCE: Yes, they started buying those raw materials in July. They also
started hiring people in July; 700 people work at this plant. And you know
what? They're still hiring to try and meet that demand -- Neil.

CAVUTO: All right, thank you very much, Edward Lawrence, on all of that.

Let's go to Dr. Roshini Raj, NYU Langone associate professor of medicine,
so much more.

Doctor, the emergency use and everything else that they want for this,
that, I guess, the FDA or other authorities decide on. But it takes a
couple of doses, right? So, explain how this one works.

DR. ROSHINI RAJ, NYU LANGONE HEALTH: Sure.

So, this vaccine, as you said, does require two doses. You get one dose,
which is an injection, and then, three weeks later, you get the second
dose. And you really do need both doses to get the efficacy that they're
quoting as 95 percent.

And let's just point out, Neil, if we're talking about potentially having
this ready in December, COVID really hit the U.S., let's say, late
February, March. So it's a remarkably rapid time frame, and to develop a
vaccine and actually get it into the people's hands, really remarkable, and
the 95 percent, a much higher number than we were certainly even hoping
for.

So it's pretty incredible what we have seen so far.

CAVUTO: Others are coming down the pike as well, Doctor. I know you and I
have chatted about this.

Whether you're looking at Johnson & Johnson or Moderna, they're all sort of
looking at offerings of their own. How do you, as a doctor, decide which is
best and for whom?

RAJ: Well, I think we're going to definitely get some guidance from the
FDA.

And you're going to have to compare a lot of factors. One is efficacy. And,
right now, it looks like so far very promising for all of the vaccines that
we have data on so far above 90 percent. But the other thing is deployment,
and how are you going to deploy these vaccines?

And some of them require that very cold storage, and some do not. It may be
much easier to use those vaccines that don't need the deep freeze. So, part
of it's going to depend on what facilities you have in your area, in your
county or even in your hospital.

And then we may get more data, hopefully, on certain vaccines, perhaps
maybe even better for certain populations, like for the elderly or those
with medical issues. And it may be a case where you're choosing based on
the individual person which vaccine is more suited to them.

But this is going to take a while. And I do want to kind of temper the good
news with the not-so-great news, because this is not going to happen
overnight. It's going to take several months to really deploy this to all
of the Americans.

And the other thing is really educating Americans about the importance of
getting the vaccine.

CAVUTO: Right.

RAJ: Unfortunately, we're already hearing a lot of pushback, because people
say they're not going to take the vaccine, they don't believe in it. They
don't think it's safe.

So, there's going to be a lot of work to do on that front as well.

CAVUTO: Yes, you're right about that. And you had telegraphed that last
time you were here, that you got to get people over that resistance.

Doctor, thank you very much. Hope you have a very safe, healthy
Thanksgiving yourself, Dr. Roshini Raj.

RAJ: You too.

CAVUTO: In the meantime, the vice president just wrapping up campaigning on
behalf of the two Republican Georgia senatorial candidates.

Democrats need to win both those races to take control of the U.S. Senate.
How's that looking?

We will ask the lieutenant governor of Georgia -- after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CAVUTO: Fifty million Americans taking to the roads and airports to head to
your house for Thanksgiving. But have they heard that now you can't have
that many of them? How is it outside?

We will be back after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CAVUTO: All right, those Republican senatorial candidates in Georgia had a
bit of an assist today by the vice president of the United States.

And it doesn't end there. For the next six weeks or so, this is going to
get very, very interesting.

Steve Harrigan in Atlanta on how all of this is going down.

Hey, Steve.

STEVE HARRIGAN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Neil, the vice president in Georgia
today really on a dual role, on the one hand, campaigning for the two
Republican Senate run-off candidates for that run-off election on January
5, but also making the case that the presidential election is not yet over.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: As our election contests
continue here in Georgia and in courts across the country, I will make you
a promise. We're going to keep fighting until every legal vote is counted.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

PENCE: We're going to keep fighting until every illegal vote is thrown out.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

PENCE: And whatever the outcome, we will never stop fighting to make
America great again.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

PENCE: That's why Georgia and America need David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler
back in a Republican majority in the United States Senate.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARRIGAN: There's already been one presidential recount by hand in Georgia.

They count almost five million ballots, found that Joe Biden had a lead of
more than 12,000 votes. The governor of Georgia expected to certify that
vote in just about a half-an-hour's time -- Neil, back to you.

CAVUTO: All right, thank you very much for that, Steve.

Again, waiting for the governor to do that.

I wonder how the lieutenant governor feels about all of this.

Geoff Duncan joins us right now.

Sir, thank you for taking the time. I know you have been quite, quite busy.

LT. GOV. GEOFF DUNCAN (R-GA): Yes, glad to be here.

CAVUTO: The president not keen on anyone writing off on election that he
thinks he won in Georgia.

Do you think, from what -- everything you have seen, sir, that Joe Biden
won Georgia fair and square?

DUNCAN: Well, we're well into the process of counting every legal vote here
in Georgia.

Just a few hours ago, Brad Raffensperger, our secretary of state, signed
off on certification on the election results. And I know the governor
shortly will be taking that issue up in his office.

I believe the process here has been one that we have paid a lot of
attention to. We have focused on just following the letter of the law,
Neil, and certainly proud of the effort of all the election offices on the
recount that we had, the risk-limiting audit that just finished a few days
ago.

CAVUTO: So, you accept what the secretary of state has said, what the
governor will sign off on, that it was close, but, in the end, Donald Trump
lost your state?

DUNCAN: Yes, I definitely follow the secretary of state's guide here that
they have absolutely counted the legal votes.

We continue to have a legal process for the president to be able to pursue.
I know that he has the opportunity in the next few days to ask for an
additional recount. I believe he has until Tuesday to make that request.

But, certainly, I encourage any candidate or any citizen, if you see any
sort of impropriety, now is the time to point it out to us, because the
hour is late.

CAVUTO: The president had been critical of the secretary of state. Two
Republican senatorial candidates said he should step down, that he hasn't
served the people of Georgia well.

Do you agree with that?

DUNCAN: Yes, Brad Raffensperger has been great to work with, from our
office's perspective.

Brad and I actually served in the state House of Representatives together.
He's a rock star conservative. He is absolutely focused in on trying to
follow the letter of the law. And, certainly, our team has worked well with
him. And they have communicated well to us as to the process they're in.

And, look, Neil, this is not easy, right? It is absolutely in the spotlight
on the national stage.

CAVUTO: Right.

DUNCAN: But we are in -- making sure we count every legal vote.

Every citizen in the state of Georgia that cast a vote deserves that. Every
candidate's name on the ballot deserves that. And that's the process we're
focused in on.

CAVUTO: The president has been not pleased with the states that don't go
his way or he feels that there's been some fraud or rigging that maybe
state officials like yourself are unaware of.

Mitt Romney, among others, Ben Sasse as well, saying that the president has
been very undemocratic, the way he has been pressing Republicans to
overturn election results.

Do you believe the president has been undemocratic in his approach?

DUNCAN: I have said this a couple of times on TV the past week or so.

Look, just because the guy I voted for isn't going to win the state of
Georgia doesn't mean my job description changes. I'm focused on the letter
of the law. I'm focused on earning the trust of 11 million Georgians. And,
quite honestly, at this point, the whole country is watching. We want to
make sure we put our best foot forward and earn the trust of everybody.

Neil, one of the things that's hard for me to watch play out here in
America is this attraction to 10-second sound bites, or to figuring out a
way to gather 7 percent of the truth and package it as a tweet, or to
package it as a Facebook post.

Just imagine if the founding fathers were more worried about 100 likes on a
social media post than they were doing the right thing.

And so, look, this is a difficult process to go through. And we're going to
keep making sure we earn the trust. But, at the end of this process, on
January 20, this is still America. This is still a great place to raise
your family. This is still a great place to run your business. This is
still the greatest military on the face of the Earth.

I'm proud of that. And we're going to keep working hard here in Georgia to
earn that trust.

CAVUTO: And you have been consistent on that.

Geoff Duncan, thank you very, very much, the lieutenant governor of the
beautiful state of Georgia, as this Senate race continues. That will be
decided on January 5.

By the way, the Georgia secretary of state will be my special guest
tomorrow on "Cavuto Live," 10:00 a.m. Eastern time. So, we will get into
this a little bit more with the guy who has become an increasing target of
the president on this race and actually some others.

Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CAVUTO: All right, we're just getting news that Kyle Rittenhouse, the
teenager charge in those twin fatal shootings in Kenosha, Wisconsin, has
just been released on $2 million bond.

We don't know the details, who provided the money, what have you, but Kyle
Rittenhouse released now on a $2 million bond. We will keep you posted if
we find out any anything more.

And, meanwhile, keeping you posted, back on politics, on the president-
elect and who he is going to select eventually for his Cabinet.

Among the first posts he is considering is Treasury secretary. And a number
of interesting names have popped up. None of them are the traditional white
male model.

Charlie Gasparino on the impact of a decision like this, I think, Charlie,
due before Thanksgiving next week, right?

CHARLIE GASPARINO, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I mean, we're -- the
vice president-elect has indicated it's imminent.

The names have been floating around for a while. I'll tell you who I have
been hearing from Democratic sources, Lael Brainard, Fed governor, woman,
at the top of the list. Number two, an African-American, very accomplished
economist Roger Ferguson. He just left TIAA-CREF, so he's signaling that
something's happening with him in this new administration.

I have also heard other names out there, Janet Yellen. Elizabeth Warren has
been -- the former Fed chairwoman. Elizabeth Warren's name is out there.
But I think because we have divided government, most likely now, the
election -- the results of this election, particularly the down-ballot
races, which went a lot of Republicans, they picked up seats in the House,
and that -- and there's a good chance going to keep the Senate.

You don't want to put -- you just don't want to contentious hearing with
someone as progressive as her, so she's unlikely to get the nod.

If I had -- if I was laying odds on this thing, Neil, I would say the
Treasury secretary is likely to go too Lael Brainard, and Roger Ferguson is
likely to take the NEC job, the job currently held by Larry Kudlow.

Both are very good at their jobs. They are considered moderate Democrats.
These are not the people that are out of the mainstream. They are
accomplished economists.

Jamie Dimon would probably be the best pick for the job. He's the head of
J.P. Morgan Chase, as you know, the best banker in modern -- in recent
history. But the progressives hate him. They -- he's too much of a banker.

One of the about Ferguson just for this job is that, while he is
technically running the -- typically, until recently, ran an investment
company, TIAA-CREF invests for teachers. That's a big Democratic
constituency.

CAVUTO: Oh, interesting.

GASPARINO: So you don't run -- you don't really have a problem politically
with that.

Lael Brainard has been most of her -- spend most of her career in
government think tanks and academia. So, again, she is -- she passes the
smell test. And Janet Yellen is a known quantity.

I still think it's -- I think, if I was to bet again, Lael Brainard gets
Treasury, Roger Ferguson gets NEC.

CAVUTO: All right. Right.

GASPARINO: Are those are good choices. Those are not out-of-the-mainstream
choices. And they're accomplished.

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO: All the remarkable, when you think of someone like a Steve Mnuchin,
who has been with the president from the very beginning, his one and only
Treasury secretary. That's rather unusual.

(CROSSTALK)

GASPARINO: That's a great point, Neil.

CAVUTO: An administration that went through people like tissue paper, you
know?

GASPARINO: Right.

And that is a great point, because if you would think of any position
that's a burnout position, it's usually the Treasury secretary in
administrations that don't have much turnover. I mean, Obama went through
Tim Geithner, and then he had Jack Lew.

It's a burnout job.

CAVUTO: It is a tough job, yes.

GASPARINO: So, it's remarkable that Mnuchin lasted as long as he did.

CAVUTO: Got it.

All right, my friend, have a wonderful, safe weekend trip.

GASPARINO: You too. Thanks.

CAVUTO: Charlie Gasparino, the best in the business by far.

Also want to let right now about the travel plans on many Americans. Even
though they're being urged, stay home, stay home, 50 million are ignoring
that. And a good many are coming to your house. Now, maybe you haven't
broken the news to them that local governors and mayors are telling you
that you can't have any more than 10 people at your house.

What are you going to do about the 20 that are on their way?

After this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CAVUTO: Well, anyone who's in authority says it's not a good idea to travel
this Thanksgiving, but, apparently, 50 million are ignoring that advice and
doing so anyway.

Jeff Paul at Los Angeles International Airport with more on what will be a
very busy week for such traveling -- Jeff.

JEFF PAUL, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Very busy regardless.

But the CDC is emphasizing that this is a recommendation, not some sort of
requirement or travel ban. But they do hope people listen to their warning
about not traveling this Thanksgiving.

And they really want people to think twice about whether that trip is worth
it, to risk someone's life just to go have dinner at somebody else's house
or see a family member, when you could do it later down the road, when it
is safer.

And it's not just about the death toll. They're also worried about the
spread of the coronavirus. Within just the last week, the U.S. saw about
one million new cases. But despite those increasing numbers and the new
warning, there's a mixed reaction among travelers.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have no qualms whatsoever traveling. I think it's
actually cleaner on the planes than it is going to a gas station and
getting gas.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's the safest place right now. I mean, they're very
strict on their COVID procedures. And it was time to get away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm with the belief that you can give thanks every day
with family, but you don't want a situation where you meet, and then you
are going to go to someone's funeral two or three months later.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PAUL: Now, last year, more than 4.5 million people traveled by air for the
Thanksgiving holiday. AAA is estimating that number to be cut in half or
maybe even more with this CDC warning about not traveling for the holiday,
long extended weekend.

And LAX says they're going to be ready for whoever comes to the airport.
They will have hand sanitizer out, Plexiglas up. You have got to wear your
mask.

And, Neil, one other quick note. You really got to hand it to the people
who work here, whether it's people keeping the restrooms clean, the flight
attendants. Really a big kudos to them, because they're not only worried
about their job, but also their health.

CAVUTO: I'm glad you mentioned that, Jeff, and very true, at that.

Jeff Paul on all of that.

We're going to take you to the state of Connecticut after this. They have
got a red alert going on.

The state's governor on what's behind that red alert and the spikes in
cases that almost, well, has the entire state looking red.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

CAVUTO: All right, as expected -- and we had the lieutenant governor of
Georgia on a short time ago -- I just want to let you know that Georgia has
certified Joe Biden the winner in that state.

I'm going to be talking to the state's secretary of state tomorrow. It was
the center of a lot of attacks from the president and even the two
Republican senatorial candidates that he wasn't doing enough to police what
they said was a flawed voting process.

But, apparently, it's all over here, certified, signed, sealed and just
about done. So, we will keep you posted on any new developments there.

Also keeping you posted on a spike in coronavirus cases pretty much all
over the country. They have various ways of treating this in some states.

What I like about what they do in Connecticut is, it's color-coded. So, for
me, I can look at the picture of the Nutmeg State and see virtually all
red. I don't know what that means, but it's a red alert phase.

The state's governor back with us, Ned Lamont.

Governor, always good to have you with.

This looks worrisome. What's going on?

GOV. NED LAMONT (D-CT): Look, we're high infection. The whole country is
high infection.

Last time, COVID hit us in a region. It hit the country in different
regions. This time, it's nondiscriminating. It's everywhere, which makes it
a little tougher, because I can't borrow from one hospital to support
another one. But we're as ready as you can be.

CAVUTO: So, what do you do in this environment?

Your -- some of your colleagues in New York and in New Jersey are limiting
Thanksgiving Day gatherings. What's going on in Connecticut?

LAMONT: Look, we want you to stay with your family. I heard your piece on
travel. Stay close to home. Don't travel this time.

And the main, most important thing we have done recently is said
restaurants, after 10:00 at night, you got to close down. It's easy to
enforce. We were finding restaurants were becoming bars as the evening went
on. That's no more.

CAVUTO: Yes.

I'm wondering, too, people hearing about these vaccines, and, sometimes,
Governor, I always get the idea that people get a little devil may care. I
can be a little more risky now because I'm hearing about these vaccines
coming down the pike.

What do you tell your residents?

LAMONT: I tell them it's good news. Vaccines are coming. We're ready to get
them distributed. But it's the eighth inning of the ball game. And a lot of
games are won and lost in the final two innings.

So this is the time for you to really hunker down, be disciplined, get
ready. It's a bridge to the vaccine. By later this spring, we should be in
good shape.

CAVUTO: Now, the CDC, of course, is very cautious about the travel
recommendations, to your point. A lot of people are traveling just the
same.

I'm wondering about the economic impact, because, when you have to revisit
restrictions and that sort of stuff, it slows things down. Are you worried
that, just as you were making these gains, the Connecticut economy could
suffer all over again?

LAMONT: Well, we have kept manufacturing and construction. We have got
about 88 percent of our economy open.

I worry about the service sector, though, like restaurants, where, if they
had to close, that represents hundreds of thousands of unemployed.

I think the good news we have learned, compared to last time, is that we
can open retail safely, and if you keep your distance and wear the mask.
And that's -- that's a lot of economic activity that we can keep going.

CAVUTO: All right, stay safe, stay healthy, Governor Ned Lamont, beautiful
state of Connecticut, like so many states, all this spiking up again.

But he's trying to put the hammer down and get it under control, as are a
lot of his Republican and Democratic colleagues. Party knows no fault line
here. This is something we're all in together.

Again, you just heard that news in Georgia that this vote was certified for
Joe Biden. Georgia's secretary of state with me tomorrow at 10:00 a.m.
Eastern Time to weigh the impact.

Here's "The Five."


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