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Former ICE director Tom Homan and former DHS special agent Tim Ballard weigh in on the crisis at the southern border.

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," February 1, 2019. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

JEANINE PIRRO, HOST: Welcome to this special edition of “Hannity: The Rise of the Radical Left.”

We have major update out of Virginia. There are now growing calls for Democratic Governor Ralph Northam to resign immediately over what is a disturbing, racist photo of Northam from the 1980s.

Joining us now live with more is Trace Gallagher -- Trace.

TRACE GALLAGHER, CORRESPONDENT: And, Judge, Virginia Governor Ralph Northam has now confirmed that he was in the controversial picture in his 1984 medical school yearbook showing someone dressed in a KKK robe and a hood and another wearing black face. Northam didn't say which costume he was wearing.

And breaking just moments ago, and Northam posted another apology video on Twitter. But he is not talking resignation, he is talking redemption. Watch this.

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GOV. RALPH NORTHAM, D-VA: No, I don't have any regrets but I do find how my comments -- I did answer that question. I regret that those comments have been mischaracterized. The personal insults toward me, I really find disgusting.

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GALLGHER: That's not the right video. He just went on Twitter and he posted a video. And in that video, Judge, which that was not it, he was saying that he apologized again. But he went on to say that he is trying to gain the trust of his people again and he will work to do that for the remainder of his term. But, again, here it is.

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NORTHAM: I have spent the past year as your governor fighting for Virginia that works better for all people. I am committed to continuing that fight through the remainder of my term.

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GALLAGHER: Did you hear that? The remainder of his term. Again, he has not addressed what he was wearing in the controversial picture.

Here's what he said earlier, quoting again: I am deeply sorry for the decision I made to appear as I did in this photo and for the hurt that decision caused then and now. This behavior is not in keeping with who I am today and the values I have fought for throughout my career in military, in medicine, and in public service.

But the condemnation is coming fast and furious. The Virginia Republican Party is calling for Northam to resign and so are 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, Julian Castro and Kamala Harris. Just this week, Northam got more heat from Republicans for supporting failed measure that would have permitted full-term abortions, something that critics called infanticide.

And Virginia Democrats might be less resistant to fight any potential resignation of Northam because the Virginia's Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax is an African-American Democrat. Breaking news comes in on this, judge. We'll break in.

PIRRO: All right, Trace, thanks so much.

And, of course, we're going to continue to monitor this disturbing story throughout the show. But first, we begin our special with a look at the growing crop of 2020 Democratic candidates.

Today, New Jersey Senator Cory Booker threw his helmet into the ring and already he is facing backlash over his constant grandstanding, including the now infamous "Spartacus" moment where he referred to self as heroic gladiator in his political war against Justice Kavanaugh.

Take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I think of you now, I think of "I am Spartacus." And I don't know if this is the best reflection of you. So --

SEN. CORY BOOKER, D-N.J.: Well, -- I hope people go back and watch that whole clip because even that was twisted. What we do in this culture right now is a tear down culture. The truth doesn't even really matter. I hope you will go back and watch the Kavanaugh hearings, it was one of my prouder moments sticking for people.

And when I was threatened to be thrown out of the Senate, I told the senator that did that, bring it, another senator stood up and said, if you're going to throw Cory Booker out, throw me into the pit, as well. And that senator, I looked at him and I said, wow, that is like an "I am Spartacus" moment. He stepped forward and said, if anything happens to Cory happens to me.

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PIRRO: Cory "Spartacus" Booker will now face off against a growing field of radical Democrats, including Senator Kamala Harris, who is promising to, quote, revolutionize the United States with socialist programs and Senator Elizabeth Warren who is already embroiled in a major scandal.

Just this week, Warren was forced to apologize to the Cherokee nation for taking a DNA test to prove her Native American ancestry.

Joining us now with more on the Democrats very shaky start is former Obama economic advisor Austan Goolsbee and Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz.

Good evening, gentlemen.

Austan, I'm going to start with you.

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE, FORMER OBAMA ECONOMIC ADVISER: OK.

PIRRO: We've got a field of individuals who appear to be so far leftist socialists and some of them who have some real issues like Cory Booker and this "Spartacus" moment where -- and let me just tell the viewers what it was about. He said that he was going to release information that would jeopardize his status in the Senate and the information was supposed to show that Kavanaugh supported racial profiling during the Bush administration. A position so awful that Booker just had to break the rules to expose it.

In truth, it turned out to have nothing to do with racial profiling and the most on point is Kavanaugh's analysis post-9/11 security in which he warned against racial profiling. So this guy, I mean, he's quite a grandstander wouldn't you say, Austan?

GOOLSBEE: Well, all presidential campaigns if they succeed are marathon trials and everybody who starts as a candidate has to get their sea legs. You saw all the leading candidates that came out and had at least one significant bump at the beginning. At the same time, I disagree a bit with your characterization that they are moving radically left in a radical direction. I think if you support policies that have the support of two thirds or more of the American people, you can't really describe those as radical policies.

So, the Medicare option for everyone, that's supported by more than 70 percent of Americans, including a majority of Republicans. So, I don't think you can call that socialist craziness.

PIRRO: All right. Congressman Gaetz, do you agree with that?

REP. MATT GAETZ, R-FLA.: I think that the Democratic Party is going to suffer from a desire to have the most theatrical candidate. We have two forces converging, Judge. One is reducing attention span when it comes to American people paying attention to politics and second, a growing number of people who wants to be president.

And so, the result is that the people who be the most theatrical tend to rise to the top in a crowd of field. Look at the Republican field in 2016, Donald Trump was the most interesting, and he won. Ted Cruz was the second most interesting, and he was the runner-up.

On the Democratic field now, I think you're going to see a lot of fireworks from Cory Booker. Even Democrats acknowledge he is a show horse, not a work horse.

PIRRO: You know, and, Austan, I'll go back to you. You know, Elizabeth Warren and this whole thing about, you know, or she now has apologized to the Cherokee nation. I thought it was interesting that the Senator Warren, the head of the Cherokee Nation or a spokesperson has reached out to us.

But we want to be clear that being a Cherokee nation tribal citizen is rooted in centuries of culture and laws, not through DNA tests. So even the Cherokee Nation is saying, do you know what? You can say you are 1/100 or 1/500 of a particular Indian nation or Native American nation I should say, but the truth is you're not. You don't have the culture. You are not a part of the laws. You don't know anything about us.

She is not hot water with them.

GOOLSBEE: She acknowledged that. I agree with that. That was a bump that she hit this week.

I mean, I think that what motivated her to do that were the kind of racially charged accusations that came from President Trump and a bunch of Republicans that, oh, yes, well, if you have any Native American in your blood, why don't take a DNA test and she did and, of course, that's not how you determine who is in a tribe. It was just a bad situation for her.

I think the congressman's insight I think is actually kind of a deep insight that as you look at presidential primaries, a lot of the attention is attracted to the most theatrical candidate. So, I wonder how that is going to play out. And for sure, if people cannot overcome these bumps in the road that happen at the beginning of campaigns and throughout campaigns, if they can't overcome them, they are going to drop out soon because the campaign goes for years. You know, it's a long ways until the election. It could be a lot of problems.

PIRRO: Congressman, going with Austan's premise, who is out first?

GAETZ: I think Kamala Harris had a very good rollout, and I think it's interesting that Cory Booker hasn't called on Northam to resign in Virginia, especially when you see the -- I mean, look, the guy's admitted either wearing black face or wearing a KKK robe. And I think that as like as these moments of moral outrage occur, you're going to see the entire Democratic field jumping over one another to take the most extreme position.

I think the next big test on that will be the filing of the Mueller report. They will be clawing each other's eyes out on the b left to be the first to call for the impeachment of Donald Trump. I think the average American, the forgotten Americans who just want to see rising wages, safe streets, a good economy, I think they're going to come home to President Trump, particularly in the Rust Belt, and that is the strategy for a winning 2020 election.

PIRRO: Yes, especially with the jobs report today which was pretty spectacular.

GAETZ: Yes.

PIRRO: Austan, Congressman, thank you both for being with us today.

And, by they way, one of the top priorities for the radical left is to do absolutely nothing about the looming crisis at our southern border. They don't care about the death, destruction and devastation caused by our porous open border. They don't care about the thousand of migrants making the perilous journey north. They just want to deny President Trump yet another accomplishment. Take a look.

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I can tell you the Republicans want to have a wall. But the Democrats are told that you can't do that. They are doing a tremendous disservice. The Democrats are doing a tremendous disservice to our country.

I don't think Nancy has a clue. And I see that when she says walls are immoral. She doesn't have -- she doesn't know, and I wish he did, because she is hurting this country so badly.

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PIRRO: Joining us now is Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows and the author of "The Russia Hoax", Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett.

All right. Congressman Meadows, you know, I heard something interesting, and that is that there is talk of biometrically tagging some of these illegals and if they send them back, if they come back, then they face some serious penalties. Are you familiar with that concept at all?

REP. MARK MEADOWS, R-N.C.: Well, that's part of that smart technology that a lot of our Democrats have been talking about but really the problem that we have, Judge, is this -- it's not only do they come back but they come back over and over and over again, because we don't have a border wall or barrier at our southern border.

And so, listen, part of the smart technology is certainly part of the solution. But I can tell you the bigger problem right now is that we have a bicameral bipartisan conference supposedly been meeting and they've only met one time in the last week. They are not even here in Washington, D.C. and they are supposedly coming up with solutions. They are not serious about negotiating.

PIRRO: All right. So they have three weeks. The president said, look, I'm giving you three weeks, guys. Go in there and hammer something out. You know, bipartisan, both houses. And you are telling me they met once and now they are gone again?

MEADOWS: Yes. They've only met one time. They met Wednesday. They don't have any scheduled meetings to meet again until possibly at the earliest next Wednesday.

So, it's not really serious about coming up to a solution, and I can tell you when the Democrats rolled out their first offer, it had zero money for border wall. And I mean, you know, at this point, you have to wonder if they ever had an intention of negotiating in the first place.

PIRRO: You know what? I don't know who is on this committee, but I'm going to find out and talk about it on my show tomorrow night, because you know what? You meet once, when you've got three weeks to resolve one of the most important issues in our country right now, you plan on meeting once next week. That's an outrage.

Now, I will go to Gregg Jarrett.

All right, Gregg. The president says there is a good chance and based on what we heard from Congressman Mark Meadows, if they don't come up with something. Congress has not wanted to come up with something since 1986, they don't come up with anything, the president has the right to declare an emergency, correct?

GREGG JARRETT, LEGAL ANALYST: He does under the National Emergencies Act of 1976. Congress actually delegated unfettered authority and discretion to the president. They can whine all they want but they're the ones who gave him that power. Once he invokes it, he then turns to another law that Congress passed six years after that in 1982 which says, specifically, he is authorized to undertake military construction projects, not otherwise authorized by Congress.

So they gave him another tool that he can utilize. They can complain all they want. They can sue. In the end, they have no legal basis to prevail.

PIRRO: OK. So, he doesn't need Congress for this.

JARRETT: He doesn't.

PIRRO: You know, I just realize, do you know there have been 58 national emergencies declared.

JARRETT: Right.

PIRRO: Since 1976 I believe the law was passed, but '79 when they first did something. And all of the sudden, the president wants to do this. We've got fentanyl, opioids, we got human trafficking, sex trafficking.

JARRETT: Heroine, yes. Humanitarian crisis on top of it.

PIRRO: As well.

JARRETT: If Barack Obama can declare a national emergency with respect to Burundi, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic, this president can certainly declare an emergency with respect to Mexico, because you just identified the acute imminent crisis insofar as drugs are concerned. More than 150 people die a day. It is now doubled over the last decade. This is a serious emergency.

PIRRO: And, you know, Congressman Meadows, I believe it was just today or yesterday, one of the biggest catches of fentanyl coming across the border. Enough fentanyl, I don't know if people realize, our viewers realize this, but if you inhale that stuff, it can take out a state. I mean, just the mere presence of it. You don't have to be a drug user. You don't have to have a needle -- nothing. The presence of this stuff can kill off millions of people.

MEADOWS: You are exactly right. Even our law enforcement officers many times have to wear gloves when they are doing a search because if they happen to have it and get even a small dose of this, and I'm not talking about taking it, I'm just saying getting on their skin or inhaling it in some way, you know, they can have just unbelievable and fatal outcomes of that.

So, you know, it's not just about the drugs though and Gregg is exactly right. The president has some executive tools in his toolbox. Members of Congress, we always want to restrain those, but President Barack Obama used it over and over and over again. I can tell you, he sent $1.8 billion to the Iranians. I didn't appropriate that.

So if he can do that, certainly the president can find a couple of billion dollars to support the efforts at the border.

PIRRO: The 1.8 billion to the Iranians. That is interesting.

All right. Gregg, I'm going back to you for a second. Let's assume that this committee comes up with nothing because they won't because they are not meeting. They are not working. They don't care.

JARRETT: Right.

PIRRO: All right? I say that freely.

The president declares a national emergency. Somebody goes to court to stop it, to get an injunction.

JARRETT: Kamala Harris is vowing to do it.

PIRRO: All right. Kamala Harris is vowing to do it, which mean it gets done, and then it goes to the Ninth Circuit.

JARRETT: Right.

PIRRO: How quickly can it go to the United States Supreme Court?

JARRETT: Well, the president could preempt it all by filing declaratory relief action to get an immediate judgment from a federal court. But if he waits for the Ninth Circuit and they decide against him, which would be wrong by them -- but they always it wrong.

PIRRO: They will.

JARRETT: Then he would seek an emergency petition to the U.S. Supreme Court.

But, you know, Kamala Harris, how embarrassing. She was the state attorney general in California. She says this is an abuse of power. Clearly, she hasn't read the law that Congress passed giving the president the authority, and she is a member of Congress.

PIRRO: Well, the amazing part of it, Congressman Meadows, is that, you know, right is wrong and wrong is right and it's almost as though we are living I'm going to date myself here in "The Twilight Zone." It's like what they say is what goes out there and they believe it, even though facts have nothing to do with it.

MEADOWS: Well, you are exactly right. And when they do that, they forget that they voted for border walls before or border fencing. They forget all of that you know, even if Senator Harris thinks she is going to file a lawsuit. There is such a thing as standing. I'm not sure any member of Congress has standing. It's probably going to be someone else.

But Gregg is right, there is no doubt. They will file a lawsuit. If they can they will file it in the ninth circuit.

Here's what we have to understand. One party is for securing our borders and keeping our community safe. Another party, the Democrat Party, is for open borders, and saying, whoever wants to come in can come in. We've got to make sure we stand up for the rule of law, Judge.

PIRRO: Couldn't have been said better.

Thank you both for being on this evening.

And next up on this special edition of "Hannity," the Democrats continue to push their far left socialist policies. You won't believe what was suggested today.

Stay with us.

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PIRRO: Welcome back to this special edition of “Hannity: The Rise of the Radical Left.”

Now, the new class of freshmen Democrat lawmakers are hitting the ground running, but not in a good way. For example, Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is in hot water after making a series of controversial remarks. During an interview this week on Yahoo News, she actually floated the idea of taxing the rich 90 percent. Watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Talking about taxes because it has a role with the new green deal.

REP. ILHAN OMAR, D-MINN.: Yes. Medicare for all. All of those things.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Medicare for all. I mean, how, again, how do you propose doing that on a very practical level because some of these critics are coming from the Democratic Party itself, you know, not only from the Republican Party.

OMAR: So there are a few things that we can do, one of them is that we could increase the taxes that people are paying who are the extremely wealthy in our community, so 70 percent, 80 percent. We have had it as high as 90 percent.

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PIRRO: That's not the only controversy remark from Congresswoman Omar. Recently, she compared Israel to Iran, and even suggested that Israel is not a democracy.

Last night, she attempted to defend her bizarre remarks writing, quote: Many of them truly know this but don't want to accept it in the same way many Americans knew separate yet equal was immoral but remained silent until a brave few were silent no more. They can attack, spin my words, and vilify me, but they will not succeed in silencing me.

And, Congresswoman Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and others on the far left are also putting pressure on Nancy Pelosi to oppose any increases in funding to the Department of Homeland Security.

Joining me now with reaction is Fox News contributor Rachel Campos-Duffy, and SiriusXM Patriot Radio host, "Daily Caller's" Kerry Picket.

All right. Rachel, I'm going to start with you.

What we're hearing is that as they go farther -- I should say further and further left, there seems to be an agenda that is not so much or I should say not only socialist but is focused on other countries outside of the United States. Sometimes I wonder if they realize they were elected to represent Americans and not Palestinians and not other people. Am I getting it wrong?

RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, CONTRIBUTOR: No, you are absolutely right. But these two women are the poster girls for the new Democrat Party. I was especially focused on what she said about the taxation because this is now being repeated by all the presidential candidates and it's really important for us as Americans to understand the Democrats are socialists. They believe that they can confiscate people's wealth in order to achieve income equality and other goods, things they think are good for society.

The Republican Party wants to expand opportunity. And everywhere that the ideas that they have, have been tried, has not only ended in destructive economic outcomes, they have also ended in terrible political repression. And I think it's important that we really and I actually think it's a good moment for us, Judge, we are seeing the Democrats for who they are.

And we, as conservatives, need to absolutely speak out. We need to educate our children. I think that's the most important thing we can do as parents and grandparents because they are getting all this information and all these ideas not just from these women but they are being indoctrinated at our schools from the elementary level all the way to the collegiate level.

PIRRO: Kerry, what's your take on all of this?

KERRY PICKET, THE DAILY CALLER: Well, here's the thing, we are hearing from particularly young members of Congress, they'll say, well, 70 percent tax rate on the rich, 90 percent tax rates on the rich. That goes back to the 1940s and 1950s.

Well, keep in mind, one of the things they don't mention is even during that era, there was a lot of loopholes in the tax code that the ultra- wealthy could actually use like saying that their income was for long term capital tax gains.

PIRRO: Capital gains.

PICKET: Yes, exactly.

And one of the things here is that now going forward, they are using fiscal policy for warfare, for political warfare and this is just not right. And one of the things a lot of these young lawmakers while they have no problems doing these kind of softball interviews, I see them over on Capitol Hill. They will take softball questions from reporters but, my goodness, when you try to go to them for tough interviews, they get their staffers around them and that's the end of it, they will not take tough questions.

PIRRO: But, you know, the interesting part of it and I will go back to you, Rachel, is that they are sucking all the air out of a room and we are talking about, Rachel, Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in and Ilhan Omar. If these presidential candidates as Kerry just said are starting to pick up these lines, well, then the whole party is almost an extreme radical left.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Absolutely. I mean, we used to say that Nancy Pelosi was too radical and these women are to the left of her and by the way they are holding her hostage.

PIRRO: Yes.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: This is the Democrat Party. This is who they are. They are being honest for the first time that's why I'm actually really excited about the 2020 elections, because I think we are going to have honest conversation. Remember, Judge Jeanine, back in 2008 when President Obama slipped up and told Joe the Plumber that he made some socialist reference to Joe about spreading the wealth, and immediately tried to walk it back. He walked it back.

They are not locking this back anymore. They are telling us exactly who they are, and this is great because we can have an honest conversation about socialism versus free enterprise, about capitalism and opportunity versus dependency, which is what they want for us.

PIRRO: You know, Kerry, one of the things that's been going on is this back and forth between Congressman Lee Zeldin and Ilhan Omar. And, you know, Lee Zeldin is standing up and saying, wait a minute, Israel is a democracy. It's the only democracy in the Middle East. And you know that Israel is not a democracy - and I'm sorry about that.

But then they refuse still to disavow the belief that the - divest, boycott, sanction and all that be implemented and now you've got Ocasio- Cortez on the Financial Services Committee. I mean these people are now on powerful Committees, getting all the air in the room and starting to direct the Democrat Party.

PICKET: And you know what's really sad, Judge, is that now you also have Liz Alden (ph) who wants to put out a disapproval resolution on anti- Semitism. And yet for some reason, nobody else, as far as democrats are concerned, want to take it up.

PIRRO: Interesting.

PICKET: And that is very telling.

PIRRO: Very telling. All right.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: What's also telling, Judge--

PIRRO: Quickly.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: - what's also telling is that, she is she is still on her Committee of the House Foreign Services Committee.

PIRRO: That's right.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: The Republicans took--

PIRRO: Good.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: The Republicans took Senator - Representative King off of his Committees, let's see if the Democrats do the same for her racist comments.

PICKET: Absolutely.

PIRRO: And up next William La Jeunesse is live from the border with the latest on the migrant caravan heading towards the United States. And later a shocking report on the Left's radical abortion agenda, that and more as this special edition of HANNITY continues.

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PIRRO: Welcome back to this special edition of “Hannity.” Joining me not live with the latest on the multiple migrant caravan steadily making their way to our Southern border is Fox News Correspondent, William La Jeunesse who is at the U.S.-Mexico border, William?

WILLIAM LA JEUNESSE, CONTRIBUTOR: Well Judge, this is San Ysidro behind me, busiest port in the U.S. 70,000 cars a day, they're waiting to come into San Diego or at least to the area.

As to the latest caravan that left Mexico City on Wednesday - 2,500 Central Americans. We expect them to hit the California and Texas border probably Tuesday, just in time for the President's State of the Union Address. Chances are they will be a topic.

Now the caravans get all the publicity, but really there is a constant flow of Central Americans through Mexico, while Democrats prefer that any new border security money go into technology and ports of entry to stop drug smuggling, like that fentanyl bust in Nogales. President says that ignores the dangers and surge in human smuggling that happens along the border, not the ports.

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TRUMP: It's very hard to do human trafficking through ports of entry, because you have people standing there looking and they say, "Hey, what's going on in the backseat, what's going on in the trunk. They check these things. So they're coming through areas where you don't have the barriers".

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JEUNESSE: So this week the U.S. returned 13 Central American asylum seekers to Mexico under new program to reduce the strain on U.S. detention centers and the problem of catch and release.

While the U.S. has immigration lawyers who are saying they're going to challenge this program as inhumane, illegal, and exposing the Central Americans to the dangers of Mexico, we spoke to two who say they'd rather work in Mexico, while their asylum cases adjudicated in the us, then get locked up here for months.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I'm just going to go to work.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Where are you going to go right now?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I'm going to go to the church and I'm going to work at a hotel.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): If they wanted me to be back, they would have sent me already back to Honduras.

ELEANOR ACER, SENIOR REFUGEE DIRECTOR, HUMAN RIGHTS FIRST: Well, these migration protection protocols are not about protecting anyone. They're actually a plan to return people seeking asylum to Mexico in violation of U.S. asylum laws passed by our Congress.

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JEUNESSE: So right now the remaining Mexico program only applies to immigrants in San Ysidro - this port of entry, and the only single men. But U.S. officials said today, they want to expand that to other cities along the border and to families as well, but that is something Mexico yet has not agreed to. Judge, back to you.

PIRRO: All right, William, thank you so much. As President Trump continues his efforts to get funding for a border wall between the United States and Mexico, it is becoming more evident why the wall is necessary.

Violence is spiraling out of control in the Mexican border City of Tijuana, causing the Mexican President to deploy federal troops to combat the city's increasing violence. Joining us now is Former ICE Director, Tom Homan and the author of " Slave Stealers: True Accounts of Slave Rescues-Then and Now", Former DHS Special Agent, Tim Ballard.

Tom, I want to start with you. This whole idea of holding people in Mexico, and one of the gentlemen on the on the video said, "If they didn't want me to be back, they would have sent me to Honduras", that's kind of an arrogant attempt or an arrogant interpretation of what's going on at the border, is it not?

TOM HOMAN, FORMER ICE DIRECTOR: Yes. And look the President's trying to do the right thing. If they want to come to this country, they do it legal way. They can wait in Mexico for the hearing.

President tried to address this when he said, "If you enter the country illegally, we're not going to let you claim asylum". And of course ACLU sued him and some Judge in Ninth Circuit agreed. And let me tell you what the ACLU did. They put these aliens back in danger, because if they were required to go to the port of entry, where they're surrounded by special agents, the women aren't going to be raped, children won't be molested. We're not banking on criminal cartels.

When you said it's OK to enter illegally and claim asylum, these people left the port of entry - as you see from the videos last few days, they are entering country illegally with bankrolled criminal organizations, the same organizations that have killed border patrol agents. They bankroll the cartels who control that Northern section of the border and they put these people in harm's way.

31% of every woman that comes up through Central America to the Mexican border enters this country illegally, one in three is sexually assaulted. That's not a DHS number, that's a doctors along on borders number.

PIRRO: Yes.

HOMAN: So what these people did, in trying to beat Trump, and take Trump out and resist Trump, is put these people back in danger.

PIRRO: The amazing part of it, Tim, and I'll go to you. Tim, of course, you spent 12 years working undercover in the Department of Homeland Security and you were very involved in human trafficking, which of course is the fastest growing crime in the world right now. And you see so much of what's going on in children. Tell us - give us just a brief idea of what's going at the border.

TIM BALLARD, FORMER DHS SPECIAL AGENT: Well, I was a special agent on the Southern border, working child trafficking cases, I understand how that - what's going on here. These children are brought through where there's a wall less section of the border.

One little girl, I'll tell you about, that we helped get out of this. She was trafficked through the wall less section into New York City - and this is typical - this is the reality. She was raped 30 to 40 times a day for five years - 13 years old.

PIRRO: OK.

BALLARD: Now had there been a wall - the wall is a law enforcement operation. Had there been a wall, the traffickers would have been forced to take her through a port of entry, like Tom said, he's absolutely correct, where we have alert agents, high technologies. Her chances of rescue grow exponentially.

But these traffickers need these kids up here, because the highest consuming nation of child pornography and child sex is United States.

PIRRO: Is United States.

BALLARD: So they want to get these kids here. We need to do better for them.

PIRRO: But doesn't it surprise you - and I know you were undercover and you're not about politics. But doesn't it stun you that the Left, which is supposed to be so sensitive, absolutely denies these facts that you have actually seen at the border?

BALLARD: Well, I just have to assume that they haven't been on the border and that - I haven't seen them there working - I was 10 years on that border going undercover, and I didn't see any of them there. So we need to talk to people who were there, experts who were there. The law enforcement entities who are there and see the problem.

PIRRO: Yes, and yet - and Tom, I'll go to you - and yet the Democrats are coming out and saying, "We don't need a steel slab barrier. Forget of walls. Wall is off the table. We don't need it. We're going to listen to the experts". Well, the experts are the ones who want the wall.

HOMAN: Well, two things. First off, I can follow up on the last comment. The problem with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer is they hate this President, more than they take the responsibility to protect people, protect this country--

PIRRO: That's right.

HOMAN: And protect our sovereignty. As far as a wall. I'll say it for the thousandth time, Nancy and Chuck, look at the data. Every place they have built a border barrier - every place, 100 cent of time they had a direct impact on decreasing illegal immigration.

Let's just use San Diego caravan for one example. When they surged the border and they come running toward the border, two things stop them - the existing barrier and the men and women in green, that's what stopped them.

PIRRO: That's right.

HOMAN: And that's what the President Trump is asking for. Nancy and Chuck haven't been to the border one time to talk to border patrol agents about why they need a wall - not once.

PIRRO: OK. All right, and Tim last question, how many children do you know or - are being trafficked from Mexico across the U.S. border a year?

BALLARD: According to the Trafficking in Persons Report, about 10,000 children every year forced into the U.S. into the commercial sex trade. With adults, that number is closer to 20,000. So this is massive - this is massive.

PIRRO: And well, I know, about this from my DEA days. I absolutely agree with it. I'm stunned that Democrats are like, "No, that's not true". Anyway, Tom and Tim, thank you so much.

And let's go back to Trace Gallagher for more on the controversy over Democratic Virginia Governor, Ralph Northam, Trace?

TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: And Judge, clearly the pressure on Virginia Democratic Governor, Ralph Northam was ratcheting up. And he already issued an apology a few hours ago for taking part in a picture in his 1984 Medical School Yearbook showing someone dressed in blackface and someone in a KKK hood and robe.

So when Northam posted a video on Twitter moments ago there was speculation it might involve resignation. Instead Northam was fighting for redemption. Watch it.

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GOV. RALPH NORTHAM, D-VA.: I accept responsibility for my past actions, and I'm ready to do the hard work of regaining your trust. I have spent the past as your Governor, fighting for Virginia that works better for all people. I am committed to continuing that fight through the remainder of my term--

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GALLAGHER: So two public statements in a few hours and Northam still hasn't answered the primary question, was he wearing blackface or a robe and hood? The point, of course, might be moot, because the condemnation is coming fast and furious.

The Virginia Republican Party is calling for Northam to resign, and so our 2020 Democratic presidential candidates Julian Castro and Kamala Harris. We should note the Virginia Lieutenant Governor is Justin Fairfax, an African- American Democrat. Judge.

PIRRO: All right, Trace, thank you. And coming up the radical Left, is once again pushing barbaric late-term abortion laws. We'll expose their extreme policies next, stay with us.

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NORTHAM: Third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians - more than one physician, by the way. And it's done in cases where there are maybe severe deformities or maybe a fetus that's non- viable.

So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated, if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

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PIRRO: That was disgraced, Virginia Democrat Governor Ralph Northam earlier this week justifying the radical Left's late-term abortion agenda.

Now, if you want to see the cruel reality of allowing abortions up until the mother's due date, which is now legal in New York State. The 2018 film "Gosnell" offers a powerful and disturbing look at convicted murderer and abortionist, Dr. Kermit Gosnell, who's killing of infants, shed light on just how evil this practice can be.

Here's a clip from the film featuring testimony from a doctor who's an expert in abortions. I might add viewer discretion is advised.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Baby was out and was breathing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We would issue a comfort care.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Comfort care. Can you define that for us?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's keeping the fetus warm and comfortable, eventually it will pass.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eventually it would pass, so basically you'd let it die.

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PIRRO: Joining us now for reaction are the authors and filmmakers of "Gosnell", Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer. All right, good evening to both of you. I guess, in light of what's going on, you must both feel a certain amount of, certainly, validation, not that you needed it in terms of what Dr. Gosnell did.

But this is now turning out to be based on what happened in New York and what was missed by one vote in Virginia, the Left's new approach to abortion. How bad do you think it's going to get and I'll start with you Ann.

ANN MCELHINNEY, "GOSNELL" CO-AUTHOR, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Well, you know what's actually very interesting here is that, these two - the Representative Tran and then the Governor of Virginia.

What they're really stating actually is what's been going on, anyway. What has been legal in this country for many, many years and in many, many parts of the country, in at least seven or eight states, including and Washington D.C., you can have an abortion up to nine months.

And I - one of the things that, I think, is actually good and it's kind of going to sound really odd. But one of the things that's quite good about the Virginia Governor and Representative Tran stating their cases so clearly this week, has been the fact that - luckily, eventually people will find out what the law is in America.

And the law in America can only come be compared to places like Pakistan, North Korea, China, this is who the club that America is in. And it's one of the things - and it's the main reason, by the way, that we made this movie.

There was testimony, as you've just seen from that clip, the testimony from the good legal abortionist, describing what a good legal abortion looks like. And I can tell you, that having spoken to the jury members this is what we shocked them. That what was legal in America, what goes on legally in America, and has gone on for many, many years is, what a lot of people don't know. And when people do know, they don't like it.

So there's something very valuable in what has just happened. And I know people are very, very shocked. It's very shocking that people are shocked, in the sense that they didn't know that this was going on, and I think, finally, people are going to find out.

PIRRO: And Phelim, what actually happens if the mother goes in - and I think that what Ann was talking about are women that go in nine months, they just so want the baby. But the way the Virginia Governor mentioned. And he said you know, the baby rests comfortably, and the mother decides. And then, I guess, the baby just dies. I mean, do they have to kill the baby? What happens?

PHELIM MCALEER, "GOSNELL" CO-AUTHOR: No. I mean and this goes on in abortion clinics and hospitals all across America at the moment and has been for decades. It's called comfort care.

PIRRO: Yes.

MCALEER: Did you hear the Governor say, the baby is comforted.

PIRRO: Comfortable, yes.

MCALEER: There is an actual phrase for it, "Comfort Care". That is from the transcript of the trial, the doctor says we give it comfort care. We put it aside, eventually it will pass. So Gosnell is serving life sentences for killing - for actively killing babies. But in America today, you can put a nine month old baby or an eight or nine month old baby aside and it will die of dehydration, and that is legal. What a country.

PIRRO: All right. OK. So the baby dies of dehydration. What happens to the babies bodies?

MCELHINNEY: That's a very good--

MCALEER: Yes, they're disposed as a hazardous waste.

PIRRO: Well, do they keep any of the body parts? Remember there was a lot of discussion and there were undercover videos that they were selling body parts. Is there another agenda after this, Ann?

MCALEER: Yes, I mean--

MCELHINNEY: Well, absolutely. And I mean, I think, we know - for example, in the case of Gosnell and the movie that you referenced and the book that we've written about Gosnell. We don't we don't know what exactly happen to the body parts, because we know that a lot of the bodies went missing.

And that's one of the things that the detectives uncovered when they were when they did this massive investigation into this guy, who by the way, the Department of Health in Harrisburg didn't bother inspecting his clinic for 17 years. In the meantime, he's disposing off bodies, taking bodies away, taking bodies out of the clinic who knows to where. But that's a very good question that you asked, Judge.

PIRRO: I just want to thank you both for being on. We're running out of time. Ann and Phelim, thanks so much. Coming up next on this special edition of “Hannity,” we have a big announcement. Stay tuned.

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PIRRO: Welcome back to “Hannity.” Unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening. But don't forget to tune into "Justice" tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. Eastern, Anthony Scaramucci, Corey Lewandowski and a whole host will join us.

Now, Sean is back on Monday. He will be hosting live from Washington D.C. ahead of the President's State of the Union address on Tuesday.

As always, thanks for watching, have a great night.

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