Mike Pence seen as ‘p----’ for not supporting indictment of Trump: MSNBC guest

The network regular also attacked the former VP as a 'wimp,' while MSNBC's John Heilemann mocked Pence as 'the squarest person you knew'

An MSNBC host and his guest piled on Mike Pence on Tuesday, suggesting the former vice president was a "p----" for not supporting the indictment of former President Trump. 

Host John Heilemann mocked Pence as boring and dull, suggesting he had the personality of the "squarest person you knew growing up." But it was guest and author Kurt Andersen who made things personal. 

As first noted on NewsBusters, he described Pence as someone who tries to "split the difference" and said of the ex-VP’s 2024 chances, "It’s not a real lane, it’s not a political lane, for a guy who will only look like what Donald Trump called him, which is to say a wimp and a p----." 

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Former Vice President Mike Pence speaks at the National Press Club on Nov. 30, 2021 in Washington. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

He derided Pence as robotic. "If AI ever gets sentient, that’s what it’s like. It splits the difference." 

Heilemann echoed the sentiment, suggesting that Pence would be the most boring version of artificial intelligence. "It’s only true if sentient AI is given the intelligence and vocabulary of a very, very sheltered, very, very conservative high school student. Like, the squarest person you knew growing up in Omaha, Nebraska." 

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Former Vice President Mike Pence delivers a speech at The Heritage Foundation titled The Freedom Agenda and America's Future, in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, October 19, 2022. (Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

Heilemann’s anger grew out of Pence opposing the indictment of Trump on the grounds that it would be "terribly divisive" for the country. However, the former vice president has repeatedly criticized Trump’s response to the events of January 6, 2021

"Whenever I see Pence, I just think… Donald Trump threw you to the lions," Heilemann said. "If you and your family would have been killed that day, he would have been fine with that, totally fine." 

John Heilemann arrives for his appearance on the 'Late Show With Stephen Colbert' at Ed Sullivan Theater on March 29, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Karl Moor/Getty Images)

In January 2022, Andersen wrote an essay for The Atlantic with the incendiary title, "The anti-vaccine right brought human sacrifice to America." 

That same month, he appeared on CNN to compare Republicans not supporting gun control to human sacrifice. 

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