Gorka: Obama, Clinton policies emboldened enemies of the US
'Defeating Jihad' author Dr. Sebastian Gorka weighs in on how the left has handled foreign policies, hypocrisy within the Clinton Foundation
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," June 15, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." Now, tonight the terrorist attack in Orlando is just the latest example of mass murder committed at the hands of Islamic extremists, but sadly, the left does not get it. Now, yesterday, President Obama lashed out in a petulant manner at his critics and went on a tirade about why he won't identify the enemy for what they are, radical Islamic terrorists.
Watch this.
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PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: For a while now, the main contribution of some of my friends on the other side of the aisle have made in the fight against ISIL is to criticize this administration and me for not using the phrase "radical Islam." This is a political distraction.
So there's no magic to the phrase "radical Islam." It's a political talking point, it's not a strategy. If we fall into the trap of painting all Muslims with a broad brush and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the terrorists' work for them.
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HANNITY: And that's not all. In the past, Hillary Clinton has also been hesitant to link radical Islamic terrorism together. Plus, as we have exposed on this program, the Clinton Foundation has taken millions of dollars from countries with deplorable human rights records, especially towards women and gays and Christians and Jews.
Joining us now, the author of "Defeating Jihad: The Winnable War," the distinguished chair of military theory at Marine Corps University, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Dr. Gorka, I want to go through this history because I think people really need to look at this in its proper perspective. So the president draws a red line in the sand if the Syrians use weapons of mass destruction. He does nothing when they do. He creates a vacuum by pulling out of Iraq early. So ISIS can fill that vacuum.
He's released terrorists back into the battlefield by releasing one Gitmo terrorist after another. He gives $150 billion to the Iranians. We know what they're going to do with that money. They're the number one state sponsor of terror. He gives Muhammad Morsi the -- at the time, after the Arab spring, who's the Egyptian president, he gives him -- he gives him F- 16s, tanks, and you know, a billion taxpayer dollars.
How can you be so wrong so often as this president is?
SEBASTIAN GORKA, "DEFEATING JIHAD" AUTHOR: I think, Sean, the prosecution rests. I think you've made the case. Whenever it's an option between supporting our friends who could really make America safer, such as President Sisi or King Abdullah of Jordan, or the Kurds in Iraq, he'll always choose the other side.
He'll give the people who every Friday in the mosque preach "death to America" $150 billion. He'll have this reset button, thanks to Hillary Clinton, with Russia that afterwards proceeds to invade Ukraine and threaten the rest of our NATO allies.
He'll go on -- think about one thing, Sean. About six months before the deal with Iran that released the billions, President Obama gave an interview to an Arab language newspaper in the Middle East, and of course, nobody in America reads. And the translation of the interview stated that President Obama admitted that Iran is still a state sponsor of terrorism. And then he goes and gives them $150 billion.
HANNITY: I mean, again, none of this makes sense. I want you to be patient and stay with me because Hillary supported the Gitmo detainee issue. She was on the wrong side on the Muslim Brotherhood issue. The Iranian issue was negotiated while she was the secretary of state, and the same thing with Iraq and the same thing with Syria.
Now, she has taken through the Clinton Foundation and donations to the Clinton library -- I want to two through this slowly. Stay with me. If you start with Saudi Arabia, OK, $25 million, up to that amount to the Clinton Foundation, $10 million to the Clinton library. Women can't drive. They need permission to work or travel. Marital rape not recognized. If you're gay or lesbian, punishable by death, no churches, no temples in Saudi Arabia. She takes their money.
Go to Kuwait, up to $10 million donated to the Clinton Foundation. Courts deny women the right to become public prosecutors and judges, no laws against domestic violence or rape. And if you're gay and you're involved in a homosexual act, well, that's illegal and you can get seven years in prison and a fine.
If you go to the UAE, they donated up to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation. Men have the legal right to beat their wives with physical violence. Marital rape is not recognized. Same-sex marriage is illegal. All sex activity outside of marriage is illegal, and women are often punished severely for adultery.
Then we go to Brunei. Money donated to the Clinton Foundation, up to $5 million. Marital rape is not a crime as the wife is not under the age of 13. And if you're gay, those acts are illegal, punishable by up to 10 years in prison, in some cases, death.
Qatar, $5 million, up to that amount to the Clinton Foundation. Marital rape not a crime. The law states that it's a woman's responsibility to obey her husband. And if you're gay and you commit gay acts, punishable by death.
Oman, up to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation. A woman's consent is not required to legalize a marriage. Marital rape is not a crime. If you're gay, it's punishable by up to six months to three years in prison.
Algeria gave, what, up to $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Marital rape not a crime. Married women under 18, they can't travel abroad without the permission of their husband. Homosexual activity is illegal, punishable by two months to two years in prison and a fine.
And The Washington Post reports that many Middle Eastern countries donated over $1 million to the Clinton Foundation, as you can see up there on the screen.
Now, I say all of this -- she says she's the champion of women's rights and gay rights. And up until this week, she's never criticized the practices of these countries and took their money!
How corrupt -- you know, is that hypocrisy in your view?
GORKA: Sean, I have to commend you and your amazing team. You have just summarized with some very important data and research everything that the HuffingtonPost and The New York Times should be doing.
If they actually believed in the values that they spout, they should have published what you just summarized in three minutes, and Hillary Clinton's campaign would be down in flames. She would be exposed for what she is, a person who loves power more than anything else and is prepared to say one thing while receiving money from the people who stand for exactly the opposite!
HANNITY: So seriously, if all the reports that we read, all right, that Donald Trump has trouble with the women's vote -- Mitt Romney was excoriated because he had women's resumes in binders, women that he wanted to hire. Women are treated, discriminated against in all of these countries she took money against (sic). Gays and lesbians are either executed or punished severely. They're mistreated. She claims to be their champion.
If you're Christian, you cannot build a temple -- I'm sorry, a church in Saudi Arabia. You cannot build a temple if you're Jewish. She claims to be the advocate, the champion of all of their rights. How do you explain the taking of money in this particular case?
GORKA: Very simply. For the left today, not the Democrat Party of the 1960s of JFK, but for the Democrat Party today, reality is optional. It has been kidnapped by the Alinsky-ites. For them, it is just the cause. You say whatever you like as long as you can maintain power.
It's not about truth, Sean, anymore. It's about staying in power and getting the millions. You've just proven it.
HANNITY: All right, let me ask you -- you're an expert on military matters. You've examined the Clinton/Obama foreign policy. In Libya, in Syria, pulling out of Iraq early, giving back gains such as Mosul, Ramadi, Fallujah and Tikrit, releasing Gitmo detainees, giving money to the former Muslim Brotherhood head Muhammad Morsi and $150 billion to Iran -- examine that from a national security standpoint. How profound are these mistakes?
GORKA: They're catastrophic, Sean. They are literally catastrophic in every case. Think about just the release of the top leaders of the Taliban, literally the war cabinet of the Taliban released from Gitmo. We've seen a 40 percent recidivism rate. The people we let out go back to killing in the name of Allah once we free them.
How is this good for our security or the security of our allies? Wherever you look, the world is on fire, in the Middle East, in Africa, in South Asia. Wherever they have touched a region, our enemies are emboldened and our friends and allies are fearful.
Whoever the next president is, it will be a job of herculean proportions to win back the confidence of everybody who no longer trusts us because of Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and the national security policy of President Barack Obama!
HANNITY: You know what? I wish you were in charge, Sebastian Gorka, thank you so much, sir. Appreciate it. Very important issue.
Coming up, the latest on the investigation into the 2-year-old boy being snatched by an alligator in Florida.
Plus, tonight...
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DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: It's going to happen again and again and again. And we are not doing what we're supposed to be doing!
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HANNITY: Donald Trump warning earlier today about the rise of Islamist attacks on American soil. Coming up next, we'll speak with his sons, Don, Jr., and Eric.
And also tonight, the Obama administration is now plowing ahead with their plans to take in thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of Syrian refugees. Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters is here to weigh in on that and more tonight on this busy news night here on "Hannity."
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TRUMP: You listen to the stories of what took place and the laughter as this man was shooting incredible people, you say to yourself, how can this possibly be happening in the United States of America? How could this be happening? And we have to be tough and we have to be smart and we have to be vigilant. It's going to happen again and again and again. And we are not doing what we're supposed to be doing!
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HANNITY: That was presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump earlier today talking about the rising threat of ISIS and radical Islam.
Now, earlier, I sat down with Donald Trump's sons, Don, Jr., and Eric, and I asked them both about the Orlando terror attack and their father's campaign. Let's take a look.
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HANNITY: Good to see you guys.
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HANNITY: All right, so we had this tragedy in Orlando, and it seems that it has now brought to forefront of the debate in the country in terms of presidential politics -- you got the refugee issue with Syrian refugees. You got the immigration issue of building the wall. You got the issue of energy independence and intelligence, four of the key issues your dad has brought up in the course of this campaign. How big does this now become?
DONALD TRUMP, JR., SON OF DONALD TRUMP: Listen, it's big. What we've shown is that the left's policies of coddling, their policy of appeasement, it doesn't work. You're not going to hug these guys into submission. You're not going to get them to stop doing what they're doing.
They're sociopaths and you have to deal with them accordingly. The only thing they understand is force, and I hope that people realize this, I mean, because it's such a shame that it takes a tragedy like this for people to realize that these are never going to be good people. These extremists are never going to be good people. They're always going be out there trying to kill you.
HANNITY: You think about this -- I -- I said earlier this week that I think your dad was responsible for shaming Hillary Clinton into finally saying "radical Islamic terrorism," but think about this. For the better part of the last eight years, it has been called workplace violence, overseas contingency operations, man-caused disasters, anything but what it really is.
D. TRUMP: Without a question.
ERIC TRUMP, SON OF DONALD TRUMP: How many more of these do you need to go through, right? We went through 9/11. We went through California. And now we have Orlando...
HANNITY: Chattanooga, Boston.
E. TRUMP: Chattanooga, Boston...
HANNITY: Belgium, Paris.
E. TRUMP: Not to mention Benghazi and so many others. I mean, how many more of these do we have to go through before they say the words "radical Islamic terrorism"? I mean, they're afraid to utter it. You can't fight an enemy if you can't even call them by their name.
And you know, this speaks to this whole narrative. I mean, I'm glad you mentioned the wall before and protecting our southern border. I'm glad you mentioned taking the oil. We should take the oil. I mean, by sending money overseas, we're funding the very people who want to hurt us.
And also, the Iran nuclear deal. I mean, look, $150 billion, and you have Kerry going on TV saying, you know, some of this money will definitely land in the hands of terrorists. I mean, how crazy are we?
HANNITY: Here's the differences, though, that are emerging in the campaign. Your dad says no, temporary ban. You dad says build a wall. Border patrol agents I've interviewed say that they're seeing seen more and more Middle Eastern men cross the border.
D. TRUMP, JR.: Many more.
HANNITY: Many more. And then I think the issue of energy independence is key. Hillary is against coal, wants to end coal mining, fracking. She's against drilling. You know, we wouldn't even bomb parts of Iraq because of environmental concerns.
So these three, four big issues, and the intelligence gathering, represent a major now choice in the campaign.
D. TRUMP, JR.: Sean, she's not going to do anything against Saudi Arabia because they funded $25 million over the last few years. I mean, there's someone out there saying that they funded 20 percent of her campaign so far indirectly and/or through the Clinton Foundation, which is a total fraud. These countries are funneling and paying for our politicians! They're buying, you know, our stupidity!
HANNITY: I interviewed your dad yesterday and I brought up this very point. And I think this is key. And I know you and I were talking about this before. Here you have Saudi Arabia gave as much as $25 million, maybe more, to the Clinton Foundation.
D. TRUMP, JR.: And we don't know where that goes, by the way. That's not a charity, like Eric's involved in charity, right, where it goes to help kids with pediatric cancer. The rating agencies that do the charities -- they can't even tell you where this money goes. They won't even look at the Clinton Foundation because it's morally corrupt!
HANNITY: Saudi Arabia gives up to $25 million. The government of Brunei gives up to $5 million. Qatar gives up to $5 million. By the way, do you know how they -- they have laws that allow the executions of gays and lesbians. Women in Saudi Arabia can't drive...
E. TRUMP: Under sharia law, she couldn't go there! She couldn't go into a hotel and use a bathroom in the lobby because they don't exist because Sharia law doesn't allow them, so many of the properties. I mean, it's really, really, really sad. It's actually incredibly scary. I mean, they're buying political influence!
HANNITY: Let me focus in, though, on the policies of Saudi Arabia, of the government of Brunei and Qatar and the UAE and Kuwait and Oman because they practice sharia and women are told how to dress. Women must dress a certain way. In many countries, can't drive under sharia. They need four male eyewitnesses for rape. Men determine if they go to school. Men determine if they're allowed to work. In Saudi Arabia, a woman can't leave a house without a male's permission. And if a woman is raped, four male eyewitnesses.
Now, she claims she's the champion of women's rights, but she took $25 million from that country and millions more from these other countries that practice sharia. Gays in eight countries, including many that donated to her, can be executed.
She claims she's a champion of gay rights, women's rights. How can she accept the money from these countries and not criticize them? Did they buy her silence?
D. TRUMP, JR.: Sean, $140 million buys a lot of silence, OK? That's all it is. And that's what we've seen. Again, this isn't something that's happened over the last few years with the Clintons. I mean, these things have been going on for years. There's been smoke around everything that they've ever touched. Everything's been corrupt. It's the biggest example of big government corruption, paid influence. That's all they've done! They made $141 million peddling influence in our government!
E. TRUMP: When they came out of the White House...
D. TRUMP, JR.: That's not a civil servant!
E. TRUMP: When they came out of the White House, they said they were dead broke. That was the exact line, right? 2001, they came out of the White House, they were dead broke. Now they're worth $200 million. I mean, what happened in that amount of time that somebody can be a government employee...
D. TRUMP, JR.: They said they were dead broke, but they had $30 million in the bank...
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HANNITY: Between 2013 and 2015, just speeches alone, they made close to $60 million.
E. TRUMP: While being a government employee. And that's the part that's really disturbing to me. I'm certainly a capitalist. You can go out and you can do well for yourself. Fantastic. But if you're supposed to be representing the interests of the country, you wonder.
And my father's been talking about this better than anybody, about our awful trade deals. It's not surprising that we have awful trade deals if countries like Saudi Arabia are giving private foundations that they have tens and millions of dollars. I mean, it's not surprising that somebody hasn't come down on them very, very hard.
HANNITY: I will tell you this because this is now, believe it or not, my 30th year in radio. I look a lot younger, right?
E. TRUMP: Yes.
HANNITY: My 20th year on Fox. But every campaign is the same, the Democratic playbook. Your father in the course of this campaign, by the time November comes, they will try to create the image he is racist, he is sexist, he is homophobic, that he wants to poison the air and water and he wants to take grandma in her wheelchair and throw her over a cliff and kill her.
E. TRUMP: Well, look at the hypocrisy of that, right? If you look at the Clinton Foundation -- just back to that because it illustrates everything -- the average female executive at the Clinton Foundation makes $83,000 less than the average male executive, right? But yet Hillary's the champion of women's issues. I mean, it's really, really sad. You can't speak out of both sides of your mouth...
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D. TRUMP, JR.: I want to know if she gives back the $25 million.
HANNITY: What?
D. TRUMP, JR.: Is she going to be giving back the $25 million that she took from Saudi, who would execute gays, who don't let women have any rights? I mean, you can't have it both ways. And that's what the left is able to get away with very well.
HANNITY: It's also...
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D. TRUMP, JR.: It's always, Do as I say, not as I do.
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HANNITY: And coming up next tonight right here on "Hannity"...
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TRUMP: We have to stop, on a temporary basis at least -- but we have to stop people from pouring into our country.
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HANNITY: Donald Trump continuing a call for a temporary Muslim ban from countries with ties to terror. Now, this comes as the Obama administration continues to welcome in Syrian refugees in spite of the fact intelligence officials are now saying that ISIS will infiltrate that population. When we come back, Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters -- he'll weigh in.
Plus, Donald Trump says he will meet with the NRA to talk about banning people who are on terror watch lists from purchasing guns. Sheriff David Clarke, Bo Dietl -- they're here tonight with reaction.
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TRUMP: We have to stop, on a temporary basis at least -- but we have to stop people from pouring into our country. We have to stop it until we find out what the hell is going on! But we have to have people come in that cherish us, that love us, that want to love us, that want to do things, that don't want to destroy us.
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HANNITY: That was Donald Trump earlier today repeating his call for the United States to have a temporary ban on Muslim immigration from countries with ties to terror.
Now, meanwhile, the Obama administration is not even willing to reconsider the president's plan to resettle thousands of Syrian refugees within our borders this year. Now, on Monday, a White House National Security Council spokesman told The Washington Examiner that the U.S. government, quote, "remains committed to the president's plan to resettle refugees from around the world." But top intelligence and national security officials -- they have been warning for months and months about ISIS infiltrating the refugee population. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would that bringing in Syrian refugees pose a greater risk to Americans?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, it's clearly a population of concern.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The concern is in Syria, the lack of our footprint on the ground in Syria, that the databases won't have the information we need. So it's not that we have a lack of process, it's there's a lack of information.
JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: We can only query against that which we have collected, and so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but we're not going to -- there'll be nothing will show up because we have no record on that person.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We should be conscious of the potential that Daesh may attempt to embed agents within that population.
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HANNITY: Joining us now with reaction, Fox News strategic analyst Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters. Lieutenant (sic) Peters, I keep mentioning it, and I wanted to play it again, but you have the FBI director, the assistant FBI director, the director of national intelligence, the House Homeland Security Committee chairman and the president's former envoy to defeat ISIS all saying the same thing, that what happened in Belgium and France, ISIS infiltration, is going to happen here.
Donald Trump says a temporary ban, but the president and Hillary want to gamble with the lives of the American people. Why?
LT. COL. RALPH PETERS, U.S. ARMY (RET.), FOX MILITARY ANALYST: Well, for President Obama, this is one more small part of his eight-year program to change America. This is about social engineering. And it's also about pleasing the extreme left. Now, Sean, I believe that the United States should help legitimate refugees.
HANNITY: So do I.
PETERS: We should -- no, but the ones we should be helping are the ones with no place else to go, no alternatives. And that -- those are the Christians of the Middle East. Obama has watched blithely as 2,000 years of Christian civilization has been eradicated throughout most of the Middle East!
They're genuine refugees. They can't even go to Europe because Christians in the refugee asylum homes are being tormented, beaten up, threatened with rape.
We could take in Christians, and I can guarantee you that Christian refugees from Syria or Iraq would not be members of ISIS. And it's very easy to know who's a Christian and who's not. The other Christians will tell you.
HANNITY: But we can also -- for those victims of a Syrian civil war, I'm all in favor of a safe zone. Militarily, we can help protect them. We can provide food, water, medicine, baby formula, cots and blankets and supplies. We can take care of them. But we're told by our top intelligence officials that they will infiltrate, meaning the terrorists.
Why would any president risk the lives of Americans? Can we say with a certainty after Paris and Belgium that Americans are going to die at the hands of some of these refugees? Is that a fair statement, a fair conclusion?
PETERS: Well, it's certainly -- the odds are greatly in favor of Americans being killed by some of these refugees, whether here or in Europe.
But one of the complicating aggravating factors, Sean, is that President Obama, because of his peculiar psychological makeup, can never, never admit he's wrong about anything. The guy has no reverse gear. You saw -- you heard his tantrum, his rant yesterday about, Well, you know, it doesn't matter, it makes no positive difference if we say Islamic radical or radical Islam.
Whereas, in fact, objectively speaking, it makes an enormous legal and military difference, and many other differences, as well. But he can't -- he won't back down on immigrants. He won't back down on anything, really. And I just wish that the president of the United States would spend less time defending Islam and more time defending America.
HANNITY: You know, if the FBI and Homeland Security knew about this guy in Orlando ahead of time and they didn't keep him on a watch list, how are we to trust the government, these same people, to vet so many thousands of Syrian refugees properly? To me, that is an impossible task.
PETERS: Well, it's also impossible because they're under so many restrictions imposed by the Obama administration, where the Department of Justice, FBI, they're prohibited from using terms in documents or filings such as Islamist terror, jihad, et cetera. The same strictures apply within our military. The military is very limited. There's great censorship in what can be said about jihad or the history of Islam, the history of jihad. This is a very tyrannical administration when it comes to...
HANNITY: And wait a minute. The Department of Homeland Security bans the term sharia...
PETERS: Yes.
HANNITY: ... and jihad. They're too disrespectful. But we're up on a break, Colonel. Thank you so much for being us. Appreciate it.
PETERS: Thank you.
HANNITY: Coming up, Donald Trump will meet with the NRA about preventing people who are on terror watch lists from buying guns. We'll check in with Sheriff David Clarke and Bo Dietl.
Also later tonight --
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TRUMP: You really have to get the word out yourself because the press is really dishonest. I don't mean, like, they made a mistake or they didn't quite cover it wrong. They are so dishonest.
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HANNITY: Donald Trump slamming an abusively biased liberal media over their coverage and repeated attempts to smear his campaign. Tucker Carlson, Lisa Boothe are here with reaction and more tonight right here on HANNITY.
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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So following the Orlando terror attack on Sunday, the National Rifle Association has been vilified by the left for their stance on protecting your Second Amendment rights. And earlier today Donald Trump announced on Twitter that he was planning to meet with the NRA, writing, quote, "I will be meeting with the NRA who has endorsed me about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list or the no-fly list to buy guns."
The NRA released a statement earlier today says that they were happy to meet with Mr. Trump. They also said, quote, "The NRA believes terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watch list or tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing."
Here with reaction, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, former NYPD detective Bo Dietl. You know, I want to start, and I want to play President Obama and Hillary Clinton trying to make this issue about radical Islam, which they refuse to acknowledge, about guns. Let's play it.
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PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA:: Enough talking about being tough on terrorism. Actually be tough on terrorism, and stop making it easy as possible for terrorists to buy assault weapons. Reinstate the assault weapons ban. Make it harder for terrorists to use these weapons to kill us.
HILLARY CLINTON, D-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The terrorist in Orlando was the definition of the wrong hands. And weapons of war have no place in our streets.
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HANNITY: All right, joining us now, we have Sheriff David Clarke, Bo Dietl. Sheriff, all right, so these are the same two that released Gitmo detainees, known terrorists, and some 40 percent we know went back to terror. The same people that gave Mohamed Morsi, the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, who once referred to Jews as descendants of apes and pigs, well, they gave that terrorist F-16s, tanks, and $1 billion taxpayer dollars. Or the Iranian $150 billion to the Iranians, both of them supported that. Both of them supported the idea of bringing Syrian refugees here, sheriff, even though intelligence officials say that is will infiltrate that population. Do we really need lectures of our guns when this is the actions of these two people?
SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY: Sean, don't take the cheese. We're taking the cheese. This is a trap. The Democrats know this. They throw the NRA up as a straw man. They throw gun control as a straw man when these terrorist incidents happen. They throw in the terror watch list this time to distract us from the real issue. And you know this. The real issue here is that President Obama has been an abject failure in terms of keeping people on the homeland here in the United States safe from terror. He is incapable of doing that.
And they don't want that discussion to be had, so they throw these other issues in there to cloud it. They'd rather have us talking about whether gun control works or not than talking about the fact that the president of the United States, Barack Obama, cannot keep us safe.
Now, as for lists, look, that's a very slippery slope. And you know who agrees with me on this? The L.A. Times, The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Huffington Post, that when government keeps secret list with no due process, in case you're place the on there wrongly -- the NRA has made it very clear they do not want terrorists or people on terror watch list to get firearms. But at the same time, if you're on there wrongly, like Fox News contributor Steven Hayes who's on a no-fly list, he's having a heck of a time trying to get off of it because there's not process.
OBAMA: I think anybody that is on that list ought to have the opportunity to get off the list and have the due process that you rightly refer to.
I don't think I'm taking the cheese, though, because they did release Gitmo terrorists who did go back to the battlefield. They did give Mohamed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood all of that weaponry. They did make the Iranian deal, and we know they want Syrian refugees in the country even though our national director of intelligence, FBI director, and others all say that ISIS will infiltrate. So to me the big picture is they've got it wrong on every case involving radical Islam, but they try and make it about guns.
CLARKE: Exactly. You know this. I know that you know it. But I don't know that a lot of other people do because we're embroiled in too many of these discussions about watch lists and guns and some of these other things. But what you just mentioned about the release of Gitmo detainees and some of those other things, that's what they don't want us talking about, and that's what we have, we on the right --
HANNITY: Great point.
CLARKE: -- have to bring this conversation back around to these failed policies of Barack Obama.
HANNITY: And the failure, add to the list, they can't say "radical Islam." They refuse to.
BO DIETL, FORMER NYPD DETECTIVE: I mean, he missed the whole point, the ideology of these radicals, what it's all about, whether it be a gun, bomb, knife. That's how they kill.
My problem is this thing is I do support, if you're on this list, this terrorist list, you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. And I think the NRA supports that 100 percent. But the thing that I'm really angry about, you have about 12,000 FBI agents across the country. We have hundreds of thousands of law enforcement. Why, Sean, is not the FBI filtering down these lists of these people on these terrorist lists where the local law enforcements, Milwaukee County with the good sheriff, why isn't he getting the names of these people in his area so he can filter down and use his manpower to follow these guys if the FBI don't have the manpower?
HANNITY: Let me go back to this list. I'll just scroll it. We went through it earlier in the program. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Brunei, all these countries, Qatar, Oman, Algeria, that gave money to the Clinton Foundation that treat women, gays, lesbians, Christians, and Jews, they discriminate against all of them.
DIETL: The president doesn't care about that. and as far as I'm concerned What you have here is you have a president missing the point here. These are people that want us dead.
HANNITY: Sheriff, you look at that --
CLARKE: But that's one of those failed policies that I'm talking about, the fact that the FBI has their hands tied. This guy, Omar Mateen, was removed from the terror watch list because of Obama's policies that you don't have this very high standard of probable cause to make an arrest, he doesn't want the FBI trailing them anymore. That's not the FBI's fault. It's another one of the failed policies and that's why they continue to take us down rabbit holes with all these other things that we start to get involved in in terms of discussions. You get it, Sean. Other people get it. I get it. I think there are too many other people. I heard from --
DIETL: You know, sheriff, you're exactly right. And as far as I'm concerned, when these things come down, all these lists and all that, these people, let the local law enforcement -- it comes down from the attorney general, from when we had Holder that, that set the precedence. Now you got Loretta Young there, Loretta Lynch, whatever her name is, and now you got her just copying the same thing. The FBI only gets controlled by the United States attorney general. We have weak attorney generals, and that's our problem.
HANNITY: Bo, thank you. Sheriff, good to see you. Thank you both for being with us.
Up next tonight right here on "Hannity" --
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TRUMP: You really have to get the word out yourself, because the press is really dishonest. I don't mean, like, they made a mistake or didn't quite cover it wrong. They are so dishonest.
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HANNITY: Donald Trump fighting back against the liberal media after the press has repeatedly tried to smear him. Tucker Carlson, Lisa Boothe, they're here next with reaction. That and more tonight right here on HANNITY.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So Donald Trump, he continues to take issue with how the mainstream media is unfairly covering his campaign. Today he tweeted, quote, "The press is so totally biased that we have no choice but to take our tough but fair and smart message directly to the people." And today "The New York Times" put out an outrageous article by op- ed columnist Andrew Rosenthal about Trump's proposed Muslim ban. He suggests that the ban may lead to American Muslims being rounded up then writes, quote, "The mass arrest and forced movement of large populations has been an instrument of genocide throughout history. That is how the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians in the early 20th century, how the United States government disseminated Native American tribes and how Stalin killed millions of his own citizens."
So what's he trying to suggest here? Here with reaction, Fox News contributor, Tucker Carlson, "Washington Examiner" contributor Lisa Boothe. Lisa, I'll start with you. So let me get this straight. So James Clapper, national director of intelligence, FBI Director Comey, Michael Steinbeck, assistant FBI director, the head of the House Homeland Security committee, the chairman, Mike McCaul, and Obama's former special envoy to defeat ISIS, General John Allen, all said ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population like they did in Belgium and like they did in France. So Donald Trump says until we can straighten that out, temporary ban. How does it become Stalin and genocide as this writer puts forth?
LISA BOOTHE, WASHINGTON EXAMINER CONTRIBUTOR: Right, Sean. Well, what you're pointing out is the bias in the media. Look, Donald Trump is not the first Republican candidate to face this biased media, and he certainly won't be the last. Study after study, Sean, shows us that the media is liberal.
And it's not just the op-ed that you mentioned from "The New York Times." They also ran a hit piece attacking Donald Trump with women, and one of the interviewees actually stepped forward and denounced the piece and said that her words were taken out of context. "The Washington Post" bragged about hiring 20 opposition researchers.
HANNITY: It's 24.
BOOTHE: Oh, 24, to dig up dirt on Donald Trump. So time after time unfortunately as Republicans we face this bias in the media.
HANNITY: It's a good point. And Tucker, we saw this with the "New York Times" story as it relates to women, ignored Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick and Dolly Kyle and Paula Jones, denied those, didn't go into those stories.
TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS HOST: Right.
HANNITY: Didn't go into the systematic smearing and besmirching of women that spoke up. They don't cover the Gitmo Bay detainees back in the battlefield. They don't cover Mohamed Morsi's record of being part of the Muslim Brotherhood and getting weapons from Obama. They don't cover the Syrian refugee threat and what our own intelligence officers said. So, you know, I don't blame Mr. Trump for being mad about the bias here.
CARLSON: Well, and it's real. There is nothing wrong with news organizations vetting presidential candidates. That's what they're supposed to do. But it's a matter, a, of scale, and, b, of tone. So you get the impression reading the "New York Times," the "Washington Post," they consider Trump not just wrong but immoral a threat to the country. Once you consider someone immoral or a threat or a fascist, or someone who is actually going to destroy the nation we live in him, then there is really nothing -- you can't go too far in stopping that person. Your job becomes not just to record what the person says, but to influence the outcome of the election.
So I think a lot of journalists, I know that because I live in this world, they believe they have a moral obligation to stop this guy. And it's at that point they're no longer journalist but they're activists.
HANNITY: I'll even take it a step further. In many ways, Lisa, they're sort of like an extension of the press office of Hillary Clinton. You've got a coordinated Hillary-Obama message, which is Donald Trump doesn't have the temperament to be president. Does Hillary have the temperament, the judgment to be president giving $150 billion to Iranian terrorists, the number one state sponsor of terror or arms to former Muslim Brotherhood head or releasing Gitmo detainees who go back in the battlefield to commit more acts of terror?
BOOTHE: It's kind of ridiculous, isn't it? They might as well be getting paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign.
And can we think of what a ridiculous concept it is that somehow Donald Trump is not giving access to the media. I would argue that Donald Trump has probably done more interviews than any other candidate in modern history. And with Hillary Clinton, we have a candidate on the left who hasn't given a full-fledged press conference this entire year. We have a candidate who went a couple months without even talking to the media. We have a candidate who intentionally and maliciously and methodically set up a private server and deleted e-mails to essentially obstruct Congress from doing their job and the media.
HANNITY: It's like you have Bryan Pagliano, the John Dean of our day, and they don't want to really pay attention to that story.
BOOTHE: Exactly.
HANNITY: Tucker, this is not new. You're right, the extension, liberal media, every election cycle any Republican presidential candidate is going to be racist, sexist, hates women, wants to throw granny over the cliff and poison the air and water. But now they've just taken it a step further now.
CARLSON: I think it's a whole different scale because, in the end, most reporters are of course liberal. That is well noted and proved in fact by studies. But they are also statists. They instinctively suck up to power, to the establishment. That is kind of who they are. They are the kids who sat in the front row and raised their hand in class in ninth grade. You know them well. They are student government presidents. And they feel free to attack Trump in a way they would never attack the establishment Republican candidate Mitt Romney, John McCain, Bob Dole because he's from outside their world. So there's really nothing you can say about him that's too much.
And by the way, if you're interested in his proposal to temporarily ban immigration from the Middle East, wouldn't it dawn on some assignment editor to say, wait, Europe has had unfettered Muslim immigration for 50 years. How has that turned out? Let's send someone over to Stockholm and let's take a good look at what Sweden is dealing with right now for some balance. That has never occurred --
HANNITY: You mean the women's swimming pool?
CARLSON: That is exactly right.
HANNITY: Well said. Tucker, good to see you, and Lisa, as always, thank you.
BOOTHE: Thank you, Sean.
HANNITY: When we come back, we need your help, a very-important question of the day. We need your answer, straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And time for our question of the day. So do you think the president and Hillary Clinton, do you think they are gambling with your life bringing in Syrian refugees when our intelligence officials say that, in fact, ISIS will infiltrate? Do you think they are gambling with your life when they release Gitmo terrorists to go back to the battlefield, or give Iran $150 billion? Do you think they are gambling with your life when they give Mohammed Morsi tanks and planes and money? Thoughts? We want to hear. Go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.
That is all the time we have left. As always, thank you for being with us. And we'll see you back here tomorrow night.
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